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Old Tue Jan 14, 2025, 01:37pm
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Apparently you misunderstood my question. What case play or citation did you provide that says those other substitutes can come in BEFORE the disqualified player is replaced?
3-3-1-C Substitution: ... Note: When a player is disqualified or directed to leave the game, both teams my substitute up until it is time to put the ball in play.

2003-04 NFHS Points of Emphasis
5) Substituting Player - Disqualifications
H) If a substitute from the non-offending team or a substitute for the offending team for someone other than the disqualified player reports to the scorer during the wait for the required substitute, they may enter the game. (3-3-1-D)
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Old Tue Jan 14, 2025, 07:51pm
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3-3-1-C Substitution: ... Note: When a player is disqualified or directed to leave the game, both teams my substitute up until it is time to put the ball in play.



2003-04 NFHS Points of Emphasis

5) Substituting Player - Disqualifications

H) If a substitute from the non-offending team or a substitute for the offending team for someone other than the disqualified player reports to the scorer during the wait for the required substitute, they may enter the game. (3-3-1-D)
So IAABO is still using that 2004 citation while the NFHS is not?

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Old Wed Jan 15, 2025, 09:54am
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So IAABO is still using that 2004 citation while the NFHS is not?
I believe that the IAABO interpretation (let them all in) has possibly taken the new (in red below) 2024-25 editorial change 3-3-1-C Substitution: Note ...

Substitution: 3-3-1-C: During multiple free throws resulting from personal fouls, substitutions may be made only before the final attempt in the sequence and after the final attempt has been scored. Note: When a player is disqualified or directed to leave the game, both teams may substitute up until it is time to put the ball in play.

(The word "Exception" has been replaced by "Note".)

... a step too far, using it to allow all substitutions during the replacement period even when the replacement period will not be followed by any free throws (simple five foul disqualification, not in the bonus).

It appears that IAABO has interpreted the new note independently, on its own, of the other language in the rule involving free throws.

I'm not sure that that's what the NFHS intended, but there was an IAABO representative (who edits our IAABO Refresher Exams questions and answers) on the NFHS 2024-25 rules committee.

I would certainly welcome a casebook play or annual interpretation from NFHS describing substitutions during a replacement period that will not be followed by any free throws.
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