Violation?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That is a dribble and thus not a violation.

Nevaderef: I'm not sure which question you're answering, the deliberate backspin after a pass caught situation, or the fumble (muff) after a pass caught situation?

[Raymond]

I am completely lost as to what you are now asking.

You asked if a certain action was a dribble and you were answered. And then you applied that answer to a question that was not asked.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I am completely lost as to what you are now asking.

Sorry.

Situation A: A1 receives a pass from a teammate while both are in in A1's backcourt. A1 catches the ball then intentionally throws the ball across the plane of the division line with backspin such the ball hits the floor in the frontcourt, and bounces back toward A1, who catches the ball while A1 is still in his backcourt.

Situation B: A1 receives a pass from a teammate while both are in in A1's backcourt. A1 unintentionally muffs (without ever holding the ball) the ball. The ball hits the floor in the frontcourt, and somehow bounces back toward A1, who catches the ball while A1 is still in his backcourt. A1 then starts a dribble while in the backcourt.

Situation C: A1 receives a pass from a teammate while both are in A1's backcourt. A1 catches the ball and takes two dribbles and then holds the ball, all while still in the backourt. A1 then unintentionally fumbles the ball. The ball hits the floor in the frontcourt, and somehow bounces back toward A1, who catches the ball while A1 is still in his backcourt.

4-4-6: Ball Location: During a dribble from backcourt to frontcourt, the ball is in the frontcourt when the ball and both feet of the dribbler touch the court entirely in the frontcourt.

Note: 4-4-6 says dribble, not fumble.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Nevaderef: I'm not sure which question you're answering, the deliberate backspin after a pass caught situation, or the fumble (muff) after a pass caught situation?

The deliberate throw with backspin meets the definition of a dribble.
A muff or fumble does not.

Hence, your Sit A is legal, while Sit B and Sit C are violations.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Situation A: A1 receives a pass from a teammate while both are in in A1's backcourt. A1 catches the ball then intentionally throws the ball across the plane of the division line with backspin such the ball hits the floor in the frontcourt, and bounces back toward A1, who catches the ball while A1 is still in his backcourt.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The deliberate throw with backspin meets the definition of a dribble.

Agree.

"Three points" (two feet and the ball) rule applies, thus no backcourt.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Situation B: A1 receives a pass from a teammate while both are in in A1's backcourt. A1 unintentionally muffs (without ever holding the ball) the ball. The ball hits the floor in the frontcourt, and somehow bounces back toward A1, who catches the ball while A1 is still in his backcourt. A1 then starts a dribble while in the backcourt.

Situation C: A1 receives a pass from a teammate while both are in A1's backcourt. A1 catches the ball and takes two dribbles and then holds the ball, all while still in the backourt. A1 then unintentionally fumbles the ball. The ball hits the floor in the frontcourt, and somehow bounces back toward A1, who catches the ball while A1 is still in his backcourt.

4-4-6: Ball Location: During a dribble from backcourt to frontcourt, the ball is in the frontcourt when the ball and both feet of the dribbler touch the court entirely in the frontcourt.

Note: 4-4-6 says dribble, not fumble.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

... while Sit B and Sit C are violations.

Agree.

Because 4-4-6 is about a dribble, not a muff or fumble.

[Raymond]

No one here said otherwise that I can remember.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

No one here said otherwise that I can remember.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

A1 receives a pass from a teammate while both are in in A1's backcourt. A1 catches the ball then throws the ball across the plane of the division line with backspin such the ball hits the floor in the frontcourt, and bounces back toward A1, who catches the ball while A1 is still in his backcourt. I've got backcourt?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You are correct in this interp

I was initially wrong.

bob jenkins, who is right 99 and 44/100 % of the time, was also incorrect.

A very rare slip up for him.

Wait ??? I'm being told ... What ??? No way. Take a photo.