Whistle Dead Ball

[Raymond]

Rule 5-5

Art. 1. The ball shall become dead or remain dead when:

f. An official blows the whistle and signals when a foul is committed by a shooter’s teammate before the ball is released for a try for goal; and

g. An official blows the whistle when any floor violation (Rules 9-3 through 9-14) occurs, there is basket interference or goaltending (Rule 9-15) or there is a free-throw violation by the free-thrower’s team (Rule 9-1).


I knew the first one. I'm guessing everyone thinks the ball is already dead for the second

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Rule 5-5-1-G: The ball shall become dead or remain dead when: An official blows the whistle when any floor violation (Rules 9-3 through 9-14) occurs, there is basket interference or goaltending (Rule 9-15) or there is a free-throw violation by the free-thrower’s team (Rule 9-1).

Originally Posted by Raymond

I'm guessing everyone thinks the ball is already dead ...

I did.

6-7-9: The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when: A violation, as in 9-2 through 13, occurs (exception for opponent leaving court for unauthorized reason, or swinging elbows excessively).

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Rule 5-5

Art. 1. The ball shall become dead or remain dead when:

f. An official blows the whistle and signals when a foul is committed by a shooter’s teammate before the ball is released for a try for goal; and

g. An official blows the whistle when any floor violation (Rules 9-3 through 9-14) occurs, there is basket interference or goaltending (Rule 9-15) or there is a free-throw violation by the free-thrower’s team (Rule 9-1).


I knew the first one. I'm guessing everyone thinks the ball is already dead for the second

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I think that's supposed to be 6-5-1, from NCAAM rules book (NCAAW is the same, but the "f" and "g" might be different.

Note that NCAAW fundamentals do NOT have the "the whistle rarely causes the ball to become dead" clause; NCAAM do not seem to have the fundamentals listed.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I think that's supposed to be 6-5-1, from NCAAM rules book ...

So Raymond's post is an NCAA citation?

My bad, I should realize that the Forum has become more college-centric over the years.

I just figured that my two-year-old NFHS rulebook on my hard drive was outdated and I was too lazy to walk across the house to get my up-to-date print rulebook.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I think that's supposed to be 6-5-1, from NCAAM rules book (NCAAW is the same, but the "f" and "g" might be different.



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You are correct.

Also from Rule 6.

Section 6. Ball Does Not Become Dead Art. 1. A live ball shall not become dead until the try in flight ends when:
a. An official’s whistle is blown;
b. Time expires for a half or extra period; or
c. A foul occurs.

Art. 2. A live ball shall not become dead when a foul is committed by an opponent of a player who starts a try for goal before a foul occurs, provided that time does not expire before the ball is in flight.

Art. 3. A live ball shall not become dead when the ball is in flight on a try for field goal or during a free throw when an opponent swings an arm(s) or elbow(s) excessively without making contact.

Art. 4. While a free throw is in flight, the ball shall not become dead when:
a. An official blows the whistle; or
b. A foul occurs.


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