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Old Tue Dec 14, 2021, 04:44pm
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Very Interesting ...

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The traveling rules state that foot movement not described as legal is illegal (quite the opposite of other rules where anything not listed as illegal is presumed to be legal).
Interesting take on this. Never heard it described this way before.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2021, 05:04pm
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4-44 : Traveling is moving a foot or feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits while holding the ball. The limits on foot movements are as follows:
ART. 3 After coming to a stop and establishing a pivot foot:
a. The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal.
b. If the player jumps, neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal..
ART. 4 After coming to a stop when neither foot can be a pivot:
a. One or both feet may be lifted, but may not be returned to the floor before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal.


Nothing about the ball being released because of a fumble.

Two choices, shoot or pass.

And the travel is because of the pivot foot being returned to the floor, having nothing to do with picking up the ball the ball? Correct?

Or does picking up the ball negate any possibility that this is a pass?
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2021, 05:44pm
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Holding ...

Wait a cotton picking minute.

With one very rare exception (below, only observed it called once), I thought that one had to be holding the ball to travel.

4.44.5 SITUATION B: A1 dives for a loose ball and slides after gaining control. A1 is in a position either on his/her back or stomach ... traveling if A1 puts the ball on the floor, then rises and is first to touch the ball.

Isn't an airborne player who has fumbled the ball no longer holding the ball?

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When an airborne shooter fumbles the ball (while still in the air) instead of releasing the ball on a try, unintentionally drops the ball, and then returns to the floor and secures possession of the ball, it’s a traveling violation because the airborne shooter didn't shoot or pass before landing and picking up the ball.
4-44 : Traveling is moving a foot or feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits while holding the ball.
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