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The shot clock only resets to 20 on an offensive rebound or foul/violation in the frontcourt under 20 in NCAAW. Are you saying that if the opponents get possession in the frontcourt under NCAAW rules, it is a 30-second reset?
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I'm saying that in the OP the shot clock was never running -- it should still be at 30 (and if not, it's a timer's error). So, it will remain at 30 no matter whether B inbounds the ball adjacent to the front court or to the back court.
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That's what I originally said. Since the shot clock never ran, it would make sense that the shot clock stays where it is at. I'll have to re-read both men's and women's rulebooks and see if Raymond is right as it specifically relates to the men's game. Stuff like this makes me wish that the men's and women's committees would get together and unify the shot clock rules. They already have the same rule for offensive rebounds and frontcourt fouls, so why not make everything else consistent.
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RULE 2 / OFFICIALS AND THEIR DUTIES Section 11. Duties of Shot-Clock Operator The shot-clock operator shall: Art. 6. Stopping and resetting the shot clock: d. Reset to 20 seconds when the following occurs: 8. During a jump ball, one team causes the ball to be out of bounds and the other team is awarded the ball for a throw-in in the frontcourt. Causing the ball to go OOB on the jump ball would mean the shot clock never started, yet we still set it to 20 seconds if the throw-in is adjacent to the FC.
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JRut, are you saying that NBA officials, both male and female, tend to come from the women's college ranks? That's a surprise, but with the rules aligning between NCAAW, that makes sense in some weird way. Anyway, the jump ball violation would have both AP and shot clock implications. |
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I'm just curious as to how someone can be identified as a potential professional basketball official, receive professional training, and then begin to make their way up the professional ladder, with little prior scholastic or collegiate basketball officiating experience. Perhaps JRutledge is referring to professorial training/evaluation/recruiting camps, just like we have scholastic and collegiate training/evaluation/recruiting camps? Want to be a professional official? Start by attending so-and-sos professional camp? Little prior scholastic or collegiate basketball officiating experience required? Previous success and accolades at scholastic or collegiate basketball officiating not necessary? We'll teach you the professional way from the get-go? Fastest way up the officiating ladder to an NBA or a WNBA career? Guaranteed, or your money back? All the very few guys that I know in the professional ranks were previously outstanding scholastic and collegiate basketball officials. I wonder how many top-notch professional basketball officials started out by working scholastic middle school, freshman, or junior varsity games to begin their climb up the officiating ladder? Maybe one can start officiating at the college level with no scholastic experience; or maybe one can start officiating at the professional level with no scholastic or college experience? Maybe there's not just one long ladder, but several ladders, and one can chose, or not chose, to switch ladders, or start on any ladder that they wish to start. As anyone can easily tell, I'm way out of my league in regard to this topic. Outside my wheelhouse. Fish out of water.
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Also, there are college supervisors out there who don't like "NBA track" refs on their rosters, just like there are HS assignors/commissioners who are inhospitable to college officials.
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I naively believed that outstanding scholastic basketball officials became college basketball officials and that outstanding college basketball officials became professorial basketball officials; using their prior experience and success to move onto the next level. Maybe that was true decades ago, but is, apparently, no longer true today.
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Now if you have some specific examples, let me know. Peace
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