Fun With Held Ball Signals ...

[BillyMac]

IAABO Make The Call Video

Was this correctly ruled a held ball? Did the officials allow the players enough time to secure possession or was the held ball ruled at the appropriate time? Did the official use the proper signal to indicate a held ball?

https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...yOBFORbQ%3D%3D

Two choices: The ruling of a held ball is correct. The ruling is incorrect (more time is needed to make a proper judgment)

My comment: The ruling of a held ball is correct. Time has no impact on calling a held ball. A held ball occurs when opponents have their hands so firmly on the ball that control cannot be obtained without undue roughness. Both the Lead and Trail gave an incorrect held ball signal, forgetting to first stop the clock with an open hand.

[Mike Goodwin]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

IAABO Make The Call Video

Was this correctly ruled a held ball? Did the officials allow the players enough time to secure possession or was the held ball ruled at the appropriate time? Did the official use the proper signal to indicate a held ball?

Two choices: The ruling of a held ball is correct. The ruling is incorrect (more time is needed to make a proper judgment)

My comment: The ruling of a held ball is correct. Time has no impact on calling a held ball. A held ball occurs when opponents have their hands so firmly on the ball that control cannot be obtained without undue roughness. Both the Lead and Trail gave an incorrect held ball signal, forgetting to first stop the clock with an open hand.

Agree with the held-ball call.

Since there's not a mask in sight, and since both officials signaled "held ball" (#3) without the "stop clock" signal (#2), this video probably predates the signal change that started in the the 2019-20 season.

[Stat-Man]

I'm also OK with a held ball here and I agree with Mike Goodwin that it's possible this clip came before the change that requires a stop clock signal before the held ball signal.

[ilyazhito]

I would add that the Trail official appears to be straightlined on the play. The Trail is lucky to get the play right, but she needs to be more proactive in working the arc to get a good position in this Crew of 2 play.

[Mike Goodwin]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I would add that the Trail official appears to be straightlined on the play. The Trail is lucky to get the play right, but she needs to be more proactive in working the arc to get a good position in this Crew of 2 play.

I would agree that Trail lucked out; Diagram 4-13 in the NFHS Manual shows that this play is only in Lead's PCA and not a dual-coverage area.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mike Goodwin

Diagram 4-13 in the NFHS Manual shows that this play is only in Lead's PCA and not a dual-coverage area.

From Flickr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mike Goodwin

... this play is only in Lead's PCA and not a dual-coverage area.

One thing that I've learned after watching dozens of IAABO Zoom presentations over this past year of lock-down, is that if one doesn't have a competitive matchup in one's primary coverage area, to look beyond for a competitive matchup to help out one's partner.

Seems like, over the past forty years, IAABO has evolved from "Primary? We don't need no stinking primary”; to "Absolutely positively stay in one's primary, no matter what, so help you God"; to "Look for a competitive matchup outside of one's primary if one doesn't have a competitive matchup in one's primary".

The game evolves. Players evolve. Officiating evolves.

[Raymond]

I like the move to stopping the clock first, especially while stepping to the play. Something the NBA had been doing and I always thought it looked sharper.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I like the move to stopping the clock first, especially while stepping to the play. Something the NBA had been doing and I always thought it looked sharper.

With a double whistle, gives me some time to take a peek at my partner, possibly make eye contact, and to possibly avoid conflicting signals. Coaches may appear to be knuckleheads, but some of them are good a spotting conflicting signals, something I would prefer to avoid if possible. In most cases, I can explain why with a coach, but if I don't have to, that's a plus for me.