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In know more about metaphysics than I do about volleyball rules, but does this have anything to do with one player wearing a different color jersey (for reasons that bewilder me), as I've seen in some college volleyball games on television?
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The libero wears a different color jersey for much the same reason a goalie in soccer does -- different rules apply and the referees (and opponents) need to be able to easily identify this person. |
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I'm 99% sure that this stuff about removing part of the uniform was added to every NFHS rule book in the same year.
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For the record, there is no rule at the NCAA level specifically calling this an unsporting act. It might be seen as one, but not at that level stated. It is stated at the NF level and I wish they would be more specific or state that it only applies to removing the jersey. Simply pulling out the jersey and not being disgusted or showing "disgustment" to me is a bridge too far. We should not be looking for this kind of stuff if they are not saying anything to us or not yelling at the top of their lungs. Let the coach handle them at this point if they are coming to the bench.
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A Player Must Not Remove The Jersey ...
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10-4-6-H: A player must not: Removing the jersey and/or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing area. Comments On The 2005-06 Rules Revisions: Jerseys/Pants/Skirts Prohibited From Being Removed (3-4-15, 10-3-7h, 10-4-1h): A team member is prohibited from removing his/her jersey and/or pants/skirt within the confines of the playing area. The penalty is a technical foul ... This addition also addresses a growing behavioral concern of players removing their jerseys to demonstrate frustration or anger and as a means of attracting individual attention. The rule is intended to be applied in all situations - even when a player must change uniforms due to blood or other unusual circumstances. It is not unreasonable to expect team members to go to their locker rooms to change their jerseys. I know that I'm wrong, but I'm not a big fan of penalizing every time a jersey is temporarily removed for a not-unsporting reason (to comply with a rule), and will occasionally ignore such behavior. Quote:
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Too many steps. Can't play with illegal undershirt. Can't temporarily remove a jersey in a not-unsporting manner to comply with a rule within the visual confines of the playing area. Can't go to the locker room unless accompanied by an adult. Can't. Can't. Can't. Sounds like my mother from sixty years ago. I'd rather just ignore the temporary not-unsporting removal of a jersey within the visual confines of the playing area for the purpose of removing an illegal undershirt to comply with a rule. By rule, and interpretation, I'm wrong, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Interesting Removing Jersey Debate ...
Misty watercolor Forum memories from February 2015:
https://forum.officiating.com/basket...tml#post954696
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Unsporting ...
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By rule, I'm wrong, but I disagree that every instance of a player removing one's jersey is automatically an unsporting act. Being around basketball for over fifty years as a player, coach, and official, I know unsporting when I see it and some instances of players removing jerseys are not unsporting. A player temporarily removing a jersey to comply with a rule is not unsporting. It is unsporting by NFHS definition, but in the larger scheme of things regarding good sportsmanship, it isn't really unsporting. I believe that the NFHS has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. 10-4-6-H: A player must not: Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as: Removing the jersey and/or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing area. 10-5-1-H: Bench personnel, including the head coach, must not: Commit an unsporting foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as: Removing the jersey and/or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing area.
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Playing his second hole of the opening round (Honda Classic) and coming off a bogey at his first, Sebastian Cappelen did what he felt needed to be done – he stripped off his shirt, one shoe and a sock, rolled up his pants, and tried to save par.
Unsporting? One stroke penalty?
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Camron is very correct concerning the rule change. While Brandi jersey removal was of great concern to the NFHS Rules Committee, there as also a more the more pressing problem that male professional soccer players by this time had started ripping off their jerseys as a way to show displeasure with a Referee's call in the pitch and male basketball players at the AAU/YBOA and H.S. levels were emulating the soccer players (I am still mystified that American male basketball players at the level were emulating male professional soccer players, , but that is a discussion for another time.). That said, those in pay grades higher that Camron and me thought the even if the reason for removing the jersey was for changing from damaged jersey or a jersey with blood on it, the player must do it out of sight of the Court. Now for an amusing and true anecdote. I have a women's college official from Canada who had a game between a National Team of one of the Scanadavian countries against a Candanian college. The Visitor's brought their "home" jerseys to the arena and not their "visitor" jerseys. The Home School offered the Visitors their away jerseys for the game which the Visitors readily accepted the offer. The Home School managers brought the jerseys to the Visitor's Bench assuming that the Visitors would go to its lockerroom and change jerseys. But no, they changed right at courtside. And when they did, the air was sucked out of the gymnasium when the spectators discovered the most of the Visitors did not wear even sports bras under their jerseys, ! MTD, Sr.
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Excellent point Billy. MTD, Sr.
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