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Old Sun Aug 23, 2020, 01:06pm
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Realistically, I won't be able to monitor them coming onto the circle, as that is the U1's job. The U1 should be able to deal with players illegally encroaching on the plane of the center circle.
In a two person game, the umpire has to chop in the tap, so he's only looking at the jumpers with his direct vision between the toss and the tap.

How can the umpire (two person game) accurately and realistically observe (with peripheral vision) all eight nonjumpers (and often the two jumpers) for violations, especially when jump ball rules are so complex (and we only see a jump ball about once a game), especially the seldom called violations (those other than ball touched on the way up, ball touched three times by jumper, ball caught by jumper), when such violations happen in a split second, keeping in mind that some have described jump balls as microbursts of mayhem.

It's the twentieth-first century. We now have alternating possession arrows. No more jump balls. Start the game by giving the ball to the visiting team and use the alternating possession arrow after that, including the overtime periods.

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Old Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:37pm
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Start the game by giving the ball to the visiting team and use the alternating possession arrow after that, including the overtime periods.
If and when Michigan allows basketball again, they've issued return to play guidelines for basketball. One of the items contained therein eliminates jump balls.
  • The visiting team gets the ball to start the game and the home team gets the next arrow.
  • Overtimes start with a coin-toss to determine possession and arrow.
I guess a flipping coin will now be part of my basketball gear for the coming year.
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Old Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:46pm
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Michigan: The visiting team gets the ball to start the game and the home team gets the next arrow. Overtimes start with a coin-toss to determine possession and arrow.
Like it, except the coin toss part. Start the overtime period like the three previous periods, with the alternating possession arrow.
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Old Sun Aug 23, 2020, 02:58pm
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I guess a flipping coin will now be part of my basketball gear for the coming year.
Cool. I never officiated a sport that needed a coin. I would get a really cool coin, a Morgan Silver Dollar, or one of those modern gold colored coins (Sacagawea Dollars, Presidential Dollars).
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Old Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:01pm
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Stat-Man, when I referee soccer, I hide my whistle behind my back, put it in one hand or the other, and have the visiting captain choose "left" or "right."

It's not a "coin toss," but it works.
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Old Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:11pm
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. when I referee soccer, I hide my whistle behind my back, put it in one hand or the other, and have the visiting captain choose "left" or "right." It's not a "coin toss," but it works.
But that's against Michigan basketball rules. The rule says "coin toss", it means coin toss, not whistle guess.

Wait a minute? I thought LRZ retired from this thread? We already hoisted the banner with his username up into the rafters.

Well I guess that if Bob Cousy, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson can do it, so can LRZ.
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Old Mon Aug 24, 2020, 02:19pm
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But that's against Michigan basketball rules. The rule says "coin toss", it means coin toss, not whistle guess.
If no one enforces all of the rules all of the time, why do some keep focusing on what the rules always dictate and use that to seemingly end their discussion/argument? Seems hypocritical doesn't it? Hmmm.

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But that's against Michigan basketball rules. The rule says "coin toss", it means coin toss, not whistle guess.
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If no one enforces all of the rules all of the time, why do some keep focusing on what the rules always dictate and use that to seemingly end their discussion/argument? Seems hypocritical doesn't it?
I was trying to be funny.

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Old Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:25pm
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If NFHS dropped the ball on editing language after the transition from jump balls the entire game to jump balls only to start the game and overtime periods, I wouldn't be surprised. NFHS rulebooks and tests have been known to contain editing mistakes, questions with no correct answer, and changes for little reason, such as "must" to "shall" in the 2019-20 edition of the rulebook, and the subsequent changes back for the 2020-21 edition.
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