Purdue v Michigan - Travel Missed?

[RefsNCoaches]

Michigan player Xavier Simpson receives a pass with both feet on the floor...he then takes a small "hop" where both feet hit the floor at the same time, then raises to take shot...releases the ball and returns to the floor.

No call was made by the C....did they get it right or kick it? I'm trying to understand it. Either foot can be the pivot foot...I want to say they kicked this?

Thoughts...

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=28455496

Edit to put up ESPN video

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RefsNCoaches

... receives a pass with both feet on the floor...he then takes a small "hop" where both feet hit the floor at the same time, then raises to take shot...releases the ball and returns to the floor.

I had the exact play yesterday. Of course my game wasn't on national television but was a middle school girls game. A grandmother was recording the game on her cell phone but she wouldn't let me use the video on the Forum (she hit me with her purse). Girl receives a pass on the wing, outside the three point arc, with both feet on the floor. She takes a bunny hop forward a few inches, both feet simultaneously coming off the floor, both feet coming back down simultaneously to contact the floor, still outside the three point arc, and shoots the ball. I sounded my whistle for a travel and sure enough the ball goes in. Wiped off the basket. Coach wasn't too happy with me. Was I wrong?

[RefsNCoaches]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I had the exact play yesterday. Of course my game wasn't on national television but was a middle school girls game. Girl receives a pass on the wing, outside the three point arc, with both feet on the floor. She takes a bunny hop forward a few inches, both feet simultaneously coming off the floor, both feet coming back down simultaneously to contact the floor, and shoots the ball. I sounded my whistle for a travel and sure enough the ball goes in. Wiped off the basket. Coach wan't too happy with me. Was I wrong?

Billy...I don't think you're wrong in your call...I would call it as well...

This is why I posted it...I may be over thinking it based on the fact that catching the ball with both feet, either may become the pivot foot. I'm sure there is more specific wording in the rule book (that I don't have in front of me at work) pertaining to moving both feet......With that said, this is the classic old school playground rule "up and down"

I'm trying to find rationale for NOT calling it (as the C official in that game passed on it) but without rule or case book in front of me, along with massive head cold that has me looped up on cold meds...I may just be off my rocker today.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RefsNCoaches

"up and down"

Signal chart citation please.

[RefsNCoaches]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Signal chart citation please.

HAHAHA...Maybe you missed my qualifier...PLAYGROUND...

Reminds me of Marques Johnson's line in White Men Can't Jump...."I'mma go to my car....get my gun...and shoot all you M***** F****!"

[sdoebler]

Yes it is a travel. Also I believe that exact play (bunny hop) is a POE.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by sdoebler

... (bunny hop) is a POE.

NFHS Basketball 2009-10 Points Of Emphasis
Traveling. The traveling rule has not changed; however, the committee is still concerned that the rule is not being properly enforced. Consequently, offensive players are gaining a tremendous advantage. Areas of specific concern are: the spin move, the step-through move, the jump stop, perimeter shooters taking an extra “hop” prior to releasing the try and ball handlers lifting the pivot foot prior to releasing the ball on the dribble. The key to determining the legality of those moves is to first find the pivot foot. Then, if the player moves a foot or the feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits, a traveling violation has occurred. Officials must know the rule, find the pivot foot and improve call accuracy; coaches must demand that players execute this skill properly, especially in practice; players must continue to develop this basic skill and practice performing legal moves.
Guidelines for Teaching and Officiating
A. Determine the pivot foot immediately.
B. At the start of the dribble, the ball must be released before the pivot foot is lifted.
C. After the dribble has ended, the player may lift pivot foot, but must release the ball on a pass or shot before the pivot foot returns to floor.
D. A player may never take two steps while in possession of the ball.

[BigT]

Bunny Hop isnt called in this state at any level. Most travels are not called in this state. Very few call the extra step that allows the offensive player to get past good defense.

His bunny hop helped the defense get closer and block the shot. It only hurts the shooter and gives them no advantage. I am not going to be that guy cuz in Rome they do not call it. I am ok not calling it. If they jump to the left or right to avoid a defender thats the easiest call in the world to make. If we are telling ourselves that we call every travel we see by rule every game every night.. Id like the game film.

If also bet if you watched the entire game or other college games you would see this is passed on a lot more than it is called.

Just my two cents.

I love this forum.

[RefsNCoaches]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

NFHS Basketball 2009-10 Points Of Emphasis
Traveling. The traveling rule has not changed; however, the committee is still concerned that the rule is not being properly enforced. Consequently, offensive players are gaining a tremendous advantage. Areas of specific concern are: the spin move, the step-through move, the jump stop, [B][COLOR="Red"]perimeter shooters taking an extra “hop” prior to releasing the try and ball handlers lifting the pivot foot prior to releasing the ball on the dribble. The key to determining the legality of those moves is to first find the pivot foot. Then, if the player moves a foot or the feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits, a traveling violation has occurred. Officials must know the rule, find the pivot foot and improve call accuracy; coaches must demand that players execute this skill properly, especially in practice; players must continue to develop this basic skill and practice performing legal moves.
Guidelines for Teaching and Officiating
A. Determine the pivot foot immediately.
B. At the start of the dribble, the ball must be released before the pivot foot is lifted.
C. After the dribble has ended, the player may lift pivot foot, but must release the ball on a pass or shot before the pivot foot returns to floor.
D. A player may never take two steps while in possession of the ball.

Playing devils advocate...