Mechanics Creep

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by constable

+this

My, How Hideous a Block Signal!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Freddy

My, How Hideous a Block Signal!

Weak mechanic for a weak foul?


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[deecee]

Originally Posted by Rich

Weak mechanic for a weak foul?


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Not even sure that's a block. Illegal hands or push.

Originally Posted by Rich

Weak mechanic for a weak foul?

Nah looks like a foul to me. Body bump affects dribbler SQBR. Prob not a foul in a higher level game with better players.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

Not even sure that's a block. Illegal hands or push.

Originally Posted by AremRed

Nah looks like a foul to me. Body bump affects dribbler SQBR. Prob not a foul in a higher level game with better players.

I agree this is often a foul since the dribbler was redirected as a result of the contact. However, it is one that some will pass on.

Block, push, doesn't really matter. It could be either. A lot of foul definitions overlap.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Nah looks like a foul to me. Body bump affects dribbler SQBR. Prob not a foul in a higher level game with better players.

It's a foul for me at all my levels.

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[Rich]

Originally Posted by Raymond

It's a foul for me at all my levels.

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I wasn't saying it isn't a foul. Guess it sounds that way.

Doesn't even deserve a prelim. Whistle, turn and report.


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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Raymond

It's a foul for me at all my levels.

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Foul to me as well. But I would not have used that signal.

Peace

[Kansas Ref]

Now that was quite a "dainty" demonstration of that signal. Something tells me that most officials [notwithstanding those on this Forum] would signal that action in a more 'manly'/ 'stronger' manner.

Apologies in advance for anyone who may view the use of the term "manly" as sexist or erstwhile politically-incorrect as certainly that was not my intention.

[zm1283]

FWIW, I saw Gerry Pollard give the "hands on hips" block signal at a D1 game today and didn't think it looked all that bad. I don't really like the signal but it's not as big of a deal to me as it is to others. My bigger gripe is our limited number of signals to use for fouls at the table.

Also, some states/associations require a preliminary signal at the spot of the foul. We have to do it and I don't have a problem with it except on shooting fouls. The "illegal use of hands" signal feels really awkward in that situation.