Roll Your Own. NOT.

[JRutledge]

Have had to tell players this for years about rolling up their shorts. It is practically an every game issue. This is in boys games BTW. I do not get why this has become a thing. But it has and we will have to deal with it accordingly. Glad it is something the NF addressed. Now we have more cover in the rule.

Peace

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Have had to tell players this for years about rolling up their shorts. It is practically an every game issue. This is in boys games BTW. I do not get why this has become a thing. But it has and we will have to deal with it accordingly. Glad it is something the NF addressed. Now we have more cover in the rule.

Peace

I think it's a thing because shorts have gotten so long that the length is bothering the players. So they roll up to get to a comfortable length. This really strikes me as a solution in search of a problem. Perhaps it will drive coaches to ask manufacturers to shorten the shorts . . . are we headed back to the 70s?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

I think it's a thing because shorts have gotten so long that the length is bothering the players. So they roll up to get to a comfortable length ... are we headed back to the 70s?

It appears that so cal lurker is correct:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...five/98891284/

Until I read this article (above), I didn't realize that this (below) was another method a making long shorts shorter. I didn't understand the interpretation at first, now I "get" it.

SITUATION 6: A1 has tucked the bottom of his/her shorts into the tights being worn. RULING: Illegal. The referee shall not allow the player to enter the game or direct the player to leave the game until the shorts are removed from inside the tights. After making the correction, the player may re-enter the game at the appropriate time for a substitution. The uniform should be worn as the manufacturer intended it to be. (3-5-5)

Short Shorts (The Royal Teens, 1958): https://youtu.be/MOfFB5QF4iQ

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

I think it's a thing because shorts have gotten so long that the length is bothering the players. So they roll up to get to a comfortable length. This really strikes me as a solution in search of a problem. Perhaps it will drive coaches to ask manufacturers to shorten the shorts . . . are we headed back to the 70s?

Also because uniforms get passed down year after year and the shorts don't fit, so players roll the waistband to compensate. Of course that's not our problem, but it's only an issue because the NFHS has decided to make it so. Why did they have to stick their nose in this?

[LRZ]

Who is to say that a manufacturer did not intend its shorts to be rolled up, perhaps to show its logo?

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Who is to say that a manufacturer did not intend its shorts to be rolled up, perhaps to show its logo?

Exactly.

Originally Posted by SC Official

I think the "worn as manufacturer intended" nonsense is, well, nonsense.

[Raymond]

In college games, I tell the players if they roll their shorts the label cannot show in accordance with:

Rule 1 Section 25. Logos, Labels, Trademarks, Patches

Art. 1. A single manufacturer’s or distributor’s normal logo, label or trademark meeting the size restrictions of Rule 1-25.2 is permitted once on the game jersey, once on the game shorts...

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Raymond

In college games, I tell the players if they roll their shorts the label cannot show in accordance with:

Rule 1 Section 25. Logos, Labels, Trademarks, Patches

Art. 1. A single manufacturer’s or distributor’s normal logo, label or trademark meeting the size restrictions of Rule 1-25.2 is permitted once on the game jersey, once on the game shorts...

Yep -- in college, roll 'em under or roll 'em twice.

In HS, here, no rolling -- and I do try to enforce it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Who is to say that a manufacturer did not intend its shorts to be rolled up, perhaps to show its logo?

Wasn't the shooter on the grassy knoll wearing long shorts with the waistband rolled down?

(Young'uns. Look it up on the Google.)

[ilyazhito]

MD officials are lucky that the MPSSAA has instructed officials to ignore this issue, unless multiple logos appear due to the shorts being rolled up.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Also because uniforms get passed down year after year and the shorts don't fit, so players roll the waistband to compensate. Of course that's not our problem, but it's only an issue because the NFHS has decided to make it so. Why did they have to stick their nose in this?

What is wrong with the drawstring? That makes one size fit a wide range.

The rolling of the waistbands is fully unnecessary.

[Nevadaref]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/j...ust-a-unicorn/

Scan the above article until you reach the part discussing the length of his shorts and the issue it caused during a tournament in Vegas.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/j...ust-a-unicorn/
Scan the above article until you reach the part discussing the length of his shorts and the issue it caused during a tournament in Vegas.

LOVELY QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE:
"If you question how seriously Green takes his shorts, keep this in mind: After learning about the Nevada rule preventing players from rolling their shorts, the family canceled its plans to move to Las Vegas and have Jalen transfer to basketball power Findlay Prep.
"No, seriously.
"As soon as they said that, as soon as that happened, we already were saying that in the crowd, 'Well, guess we ain't going to Vegas. We ain't moving to Nevada,'" Marcus told CBS Sports. "And as soon as he came off the court, and the game was over, he was like, 'Yeah we're not moving to Nevada. If I can't roll my shorts I can't do it.' And so there it is. That killed it."
"Don't mess with this young man and his short shorts."

Parents aiding and abetting crass, self-absorbed me-ism.
Would be funny if Findlay Prep and the schools they play adopted the NFHS Interpretation. The parents would have to buy a new house somewhere else.

Ugh.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

After learning about the Nevada rule preventing players from rolling their shorts, the family canceled its plans to move to Las Vegas and have Jalen transfer to basketball power Findlay Prep ... If I can't roll my shorts I can't do it.' And so there it is. That killed it." "Don't mess with this young man and his short shorts."

Sounds like a Sports Illustrated Sign of the Apocalypse.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

What is wrong with the drawstring? That makes one size fit a wide range.

The rolling of the waistbands is fully unnecessary.

Does the drawstring shorten the length of the shorts?

It may or may not be unnecessary, but that doesn't mean it's something we should have to be involved in. Kids wear all sorts of unnecessary accessories that are legal under the rules.

This is not a safety issue and the interpretation is a solution in search of a problem. More fashion police rules is not something the game needs when I bet there will still be a significant percentage of officials who won't enforce it.

The way Raymond and Bob handle it in college games is the way it should be treated in high school.