Roll Your Own. NOT.

[Freddy]

2018,19 Interpretations
SITUATION 9: During warm-ups, the officials notice that some players have rolled the waistband on their shorts. What actions should be taken by the officials, if any, at this time? RULING: During the warm-up period, the referee should notify the coach of the infractions and ask that they be corrected immediately. If the corrections are not made and players attempt to enter the game with rolled waistbands, those players should not be allowed to enter the game prior to correcting the issue. If player(s) in the game have rolled waistband(s), they shall be directed to leave the game and may not re-enter until the next opportunity to substitute. No penalty is involved. The game should not be held-up to allow for the correction. (3-3-5, 3-5-5)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

... some players have rolled the waistband on their shorts.

I first became aware of this issue several years ago on the Forum. At the time we didn't have this problem here in Connecticut. That is no longer the case, and it's almost always girls.

It's another fashion issue that some officials will not understand, some won't know about it, some will chose to ignore ("not part of the game"), some will not be observant enough to enforce, and some may enforce.

3-5-5: Equipment and apparel shall not be modified from the original
manufactured state and shall be worn in the manner the manufacturer intended it
to be worn.

3-5-5-A: Uniform pants/skirts shall adhere to the following: Only one visible manufacturer’s logo/trademark/reference is permitted

[SC Official]

Ultimately states will do what they want irrespective of this stupid rule and interpretation.

In South Carolina it's been a crapshoot the past few years and enforcement has been largely dependent on whom the R is. Some R's don't allow any rolling. Some allow rolling as long as no extra logos are seen. Some don't care.

The only thing I personally care about is the drawstring being tucked in since fingers, etc. can get caught in it.

I think the "worn as manufacturer intended" nonsense is, well, nonsense.

[Raymond]

This has been addressed in our state's preseason clinic for at least 4-5 years now, maybe longer than that. I don't think I've seen anybody sent out of the game yet, but many officials do address in pregame Captains meetings and players are told to fix it during the games.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

This has been addressed in our state's preseason clinic for at least 4-5 years now, maybe longer than that.

This issue has never been addressed in my little corner of Connecticut, even though we're seeing more and more girls rolling their waistbands every season. I have an email out to my local interpreter, and the state interpreter, asking about enforcement of this recent annual interpretation. I hope that we can just ignore. I really don't relish the idea of checking out the rear waistband of teenage female players to see if the waistband is rolled so that a logo is showing.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I have an email out to my local interpreter, and the state interpreter, asking about enforcement of this recent annual interpretation.

Got a response. Actually no response. It's on its way up the IAABO ladder, possibly all the way up to the IAABO Grand Imperial Poobah.

[JRutledge]

Have had to tell players this for years about rolling up their shorts. It is practically an every game issue. This is in boys games BTW. I do not get why this has become a thing. But it has and we will have to deal with it accordingly. Glad it is something the NF addressed. Now we have more cover in the rule.

Peace

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Have had to tell players this for years about rolling up their shorts. It is practically an every game issue. This is in boys games BTW. I do not get why this has become a thing. But it has and we will have to deal with it accordingly. Glad it is something the NF addressed. Now we have more cover in the rule.

Peace

I think it's a thing because shorts have gotten so long that the length is bothering the players. So they roll up to get to a comfortable length. This really strikes me as a solution in search of a problem. Perhaps it will drive coaches to ask manufacturers to shorten the shorts . . . are we headed back to the 70s?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I apologize in advance for arriving late to the party.

1) Those veterans of this Forum know that I am a (reluctant) member of the Fashion Police Squad. Meaning, I enforce the Rules as required.

2) I would like to bring everyone's attention a thread from January 2017. My main contribution to the thread is Comment #8; unfortunately Billy YouTube video is no longer available.

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...rm-police.html


MTD, Sr.