Ejected coach doesn't leave immediately

[SC Official]

In a high school game you will likely have administrators and/or security who will get the coach out of there. In the unlikely event they don't do their job and the coach doesn't leave on his own, suspend the game and let your state take it from there.

Non-scholastic game, all bets are off. Yes, I am exponentially more likely to declare a forfeit. No TD or security? I'm with Raymond; set the timer for a minute, and if he's still there then declare a forfeit, grab your bags and GTHO. Those games aren't worth the headache. If your assigner, etc. doesn't defend you, then it's probably time to move on.

Don't stick around getting treated like dirt "so the kids don't get penalized." The "kids" and their parents have no one to blame but the coach.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

In a high school game you will likely have administrators and/or security who will get the coach out of there. In the unlikely event they don't do their job and the coach doesn't leave on his own, suspend the game and let your state take it from there.

Also in an actual high school or even lower level school games, there is likely accountability to that school, league, state or organization that would not allow such behavior in an extra-curricular activity.

I did a college game this year where I was called a very derogatory word. Not only is there an automatic penalty for an ejection, but the school took further action to penalize the coach. And I was able to write a report about the incident and the interactions. I have never had to even answer to an assignor in an AAU/Travel environment. I have never had to discuss why someone got ejected other than may be a tournament director that is not an official. But unless you decide to pay me the full amount of money that I would get paid during a real game, I am not putting up with any extra stuff just so I can say, "This is for the kids." And the actions of because they pay money is even less of an influence on me which is their common claim for bad behavior.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SC Official

In a high school game ... in the unlikely event ... the coach doesn't leave on his own, suspend the game and let your state take it from there.

Why would you "only" suspend an interscholastic game, when there is absolutely no rule language for such a suspension, especially when there is clearly rule language for the "nuclear option", forfeiture.

2-5-4: The referee shall: May declare the game a forfeit when conditions warrant.

5-4-1: The referee shall forfeit the game if a team refuses to play after being instructed to do so by any official. The referee may also forfeit a game if any player, team member, bench personnel or coach fails to comply with any technical-foul penalty, or repeatedly commits technical-foul infractions or other acts which make a travesty of the game.

10-4-Penalty-Note: Ejected adult bench personnel shall leave the vicinity (out of sight and sound) of the playing area immediately and are prohibited from any further contact (direct or indirect) with the team during the remainder of the game. Failure to comply with the rules of ejection may result in the game being forfeited.

10-5-Penalty-Note: Ejected adult bench personnel shall leave the vicinity (out of sight and sound) of the playing area immediately and are prohibited from any further contact (direct or indirect) with the team during the remainder of the game. Failure to comply with the rules of ejection may result in the game being forfeited.

5.4.1 SITUATION A: A1 commits his/her fifth personal foul. Both the head
coach and player are properly notified. Team A has substitutes available but the
head coach from Team A does not send a substitute to the table within the 20-
second time limit. The Team A head coach is assessed a technical foul. The head
coach still does not send a substitute to the table. RULING: The official should
forfeit the contest to the opposing team for the head coach delaying the contest
and attempting to make a travesty of the game. COMMENT: The referee may forfeit
a game if any player, team member, bench personnel or coach fails to comply
with any technical foul penalty.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Why would you "only" suspend an interscholastic game, when there is absolutely no rule language for such a suspension, especially when there is clearly rule language for the "nuclear option", forfeiture.

Because it's widely accepted in practice.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Because it's widely accepted in practice.

Once again, as usual here on the Forum, it's probably one of those, "When in Rome ....", situations.

Here in Connecticut, high school athletic directors, high school principals, school superintendents, assignment commissioners, and the interscholastic high school sports governing body, would have absolutely no problem if a basketball referee forfeited a game because an ejected coach refused to leave the gymnasium in a timely manner. No one would even blink an eye.