Don't wanna get got.

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by bucky

Yes, have to have contact but that was what I meant in my post. Defender goes for a steal on the ball handler and ball handler keeps hand/arm between ball and defender and there is contact. Happens dozens and dozens of times every game, in HS, NCAA, etc. Suppose if going to enforce have to go with player control foul. I think the rule needs to be re-written. Arm/hand should be allowed to prevent defender by being held in place but not allowed to push/ward off.

Billy raised a good question. We have some rules written that do not necessarily and specifically providing a penalty. Another one involves teammates grasping/locking arms. Not allowed by rule but no penalty is providing...at least without contact. And if there is contact, who gets the foul? Say you have 3 teammates locking arms forming a wall/screen. Defender runs into, not a player's specific torso, but rather the locked arms. Who gets the foul? All 3?

I agree. 4-24-7 should be more explicitly defined, by saying that it is illegal for a dribbler or ball handler to use his hand or arm not currently in contact with the ball (off hand/arm) to contact a defender, to protect the ball or gain separation from the defender.

Technically, the foul for contact with grasped/locking arms would be a multiple foul, charged to all 3 players involved. Since the foul is a team control foul in this situation, no free throws are attempted, and the opposing team would receive a throw-in at the spot nearest the foul.