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Old Tue Apr 10, 2018, 08:47am
bob jenkins bob jenkins is offline
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I'm not quite sure I understand the question, and I sure don't get the picture you are trying to create, but:

1) a collapsed arm bar isn't an automatic foul

2) it's a foul for the defense to *place* (note who is doing the action) a hand continuously ... on the offense
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