NFHS 2017-18 Rules Changes

[Rich]

Originally Posted by walt

From what I was told, that was the only real point of consequence. There will supposedly be language put out related to the "warning" of a coach and an emphasis on, once again, calling intentional fouls.

Having a 28-foot box would make me quite happy. Let the coach go where he wants to coach as long as he's behaving himself.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Rich

Having a 28-foot box would make me quite happy. Let the coach go where he wants to coach as long as he's behaving himself.

Agreed. I'd get rid of the seatbelt rule, too, if it was up to me. But this would be a start.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Agreed. I'd get rid of the seatbelt rule, too, if it was up to me. But this would be a start.

Also agree. The less we have to police the specific location of the coach, the better.

That said, I still see a few that go too far the other way and get in front of the scorer's table. I've even had a scorer mention to me that they couldn't clearly see the game because the coach was blocking her view when we were at the far end of the court.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Also agree. The less we have to police the specific location of the coach, the better.

That said, I still see a few that go too far the other way and get in front of the scorer's table. I've even had a scorer mention to me that they couldn't clearly see the game because the coach was blocking her view when we were at the far end of the court.

If indeed the box is being expanded, I wouldn't be surprised to see more directives to "strictly" enforce the boundaries of the box since the coaches are being given an extra 14 feet. Of course, that doesn't necessarily solve the problem you mentioned.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SC Official

If indeed the box is being expanded, I wouldn't be surprised to see more directives to "strictly" enforce the boundaries of the box since the coaches are being given an extra 14 feet. Of course, that doesn't necessarily solve the problem you mentioned.

With a 28 foot box, there's one line I would enforce closely -- the end line.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

Having a 28-foot box would make me quite happy. Let the coach go where he wants to coach as long as he's behaving himself.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I still see a few that go too far the other way and get in front of the scorer's table. I've even had a scorer mention to me that they couldn't clearly see the game because the coach was blocking her view when we were at the far end of the court.

Agree, and agree again.

[JRutledge]

Well I had an opportunity to see JD Collins speak at a camp this weekend.

It appears that the NCAA Men's side is to going to quarters this year for sure. They also are not going to resetting fouls after 5 this year as well. The reason these things need to be investigated more and it appears coaches like to coach to the possibility of having 1 and 1 free throws. It may change in the future, but not something they will change without more data.

So if the NF changes this, they will not have the support of the most high profile level college at this time. And yes that sometimes matters if you are going to take on rules from other levels.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well I had an opportunity to see JD Collins speak at a camp this weekend.

It appears that the NCAA Men's side is to going to quarters this year for sure. They also are not going to resetting fouls after 5 this year as well. The reason these things need to be investigated more and it appears coaches like to coach to the possibility of having 1 and 1 free throws. It may change in the future, but not something they will change without more data.

So if the NF changes this, they will not have the support of the most high profile level college at this time. And yes that sometimes matters if you are going to take on rules from other levels.

Peace

The women's side has done this, though. No reason why the NFHS wouldn't side with the women's rules over the men's rules *if* there was to be a change.

Wonder if we'll go back to quarters now in WI. The coaches seem to like halves, but now we'll be different than every other level.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

The women's side has done this, though. No reason why the NFHS wouldn't side with the women's rules over the men's rules *if* there was to be a change.

Well if that is the case, it never seems to change a rule from college unless the Men's side accepts or changes the rule in their game. Even mechanics are often not changed unless the Men's side in general makes the change. Again my point is that the Men's side are not changing some things that people here wanted to change. I think that will likely mean that those changes will not come as quickly as some think. We already know that the NCAA Men's side does not accept the NBA way of things on many levels. And even JD Collins said, "We are not the NBA." He went on to day, "They have 64 officials on their staff, we have 850 regular D1 officials at our level." Heck my state has 5000 basketball officials that range in all years of experience as well and that is just one state. So when we have rules changes, it has to benefit everyone, not just a relatively smaller number of schools. Heck my state even has over double the amount of schools the NCAA D1 level has to play, which many of the rules use as their standard of operation.

Originally Posted by Rich

Wonder if we'll go back to quarters now in WI. The coaches seem to like halves, but now we'll be different than every other level.

I hope we go to halves. I think the game flows better. Heck after working several AAU games with 16 minute halves, I would rather that be the standard anyway. Only one last second shot possibility and the game just flows and runs smoother IMO. Heck you can even extend the game a minute or two a half as well and that would be better IMO.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Agreed. I'd get rid of the seatbelt rule, too, if it was up to me. But this would be a start.

Yup. Me too.