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Old Sun Feb 05, 2017, 02:49pm
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I never really gave this any thought until reading this thread, but I now realize that I don't like the coach's box. There are coaches who feel the need to be on their feet the entire game and I don't think they are actually coaching. Don't get me wrong, I have seen very good coaches who are on their feet actually doing good things with their players. For the most part, I think coaches are on their feet to give the appearance that they are doing something.

Serious question: So?
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2017, 03:03pm
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Serious question: So?
Serious answer, I guess. The original post made me think about the big issue, in my opinion, which is coaches who must be on their feet. Hence, my comment. I think these forums can be great. I know there are a lot of topics that generate a lot of thought that I don't comment on. I shared a thought that came to mind after reading the original post. I am sure my comment will invoke someone else thought process. I am sorry it went over your head and all you can come up with is "so?".

I gave you a serious answer. Now I have some serious questions for you. What is your problem? Do you have any real friends? What is your education level?
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2017, 04:15pm
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I never really gave this any thought until reading this thread, but I now realize that I don't like the coach's box. There are coaches who feel the need to be on their feet the entire game and I don't think they are actually coaching. Don't get me wrong, I have seen very good coaches who are on their feet actually doing good things with their players. For the most part, I think coaches are on their feet to give the appearance that they are doing something.

I have always thought this. Aside from calling out plays, what really is the point of a coach yelling the bs they do? If we were to stop and think, the more a coach yells, to me, would parenthetically mean the worse coach the are. If you have to tell your players to rebound, box out, hands up, move your feet, push it, outlet, swing it, one more pass, etc etc all the fricking time during a game, it just sounds poor to me. Means to me they didn't get taught enough in practice. I've always thought that, even all the way up to the best coaches.
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2017, 10:58pm
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I never really gave this any thought until reading this thread, but I now realize that I don't like the coach's box. There are coaches who feel the need to be on their feet the entire game and I don't think they are actually coaching. Don't get me wrong, I have seen very good coaches who are on their feet actually doing good things with their players. For the most part, I think coaches are on their feet to give the appearance that they are doing something.
This is ridiculous. For the most part??? You're wrong. They are actually coaching, changing the defense, calling the offensive sets, changing matchups, signaling, calling timeout, etc... and they do this while standing so that they can be more easily seen and/or heard. Pay attention to your job more.
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2017, 11:22pm
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This is ridiculous. For the most part??? You're wrong. They are actually coaching, changing the defense, calling the offensive sets, changing matchups, signaling, calling timeout, etc... and they do this while standing so that they can be more easily seen and/or heard. Pay attention to your job more.
Not that I am complaining and since you brought it up, it would be easier to pay more attention and do a better job if coaches would coach and quit trying to tell me how to do my job (while pacing in the coach's box). Plenty of good coaches out there and appreciate them.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2017, 08:44am
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I never really gave this any thought until reading this thread, but I now realize that I don't like the coach's box. There are coaches who feel the need to be on their feet the entire game and I don't think they are actually coaching. Don't get me wrong, I have seen very good coaches who are on their feet actually doing good things with their players. For the most part, I think coaches are on their feet to give the appearance that they are doing something.
it *might* help if you thought of it as a "coaching box" and not as a "coach's box." A difference that describes the activity and not the person.

And, FWIW, I understood exactly what Rich was asking.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2017, 10:51am
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it *might* help if you thought of it as a "coaching box" and not as a "coach's box." A difference that describes the activity and not the person.

And, FWIW, I understood exactly what Rich was asking.
Thank you for that. This supports my feeling that if you are not actually coaching then sit down.
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2017, 04:20pm
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And I posted that above before I read the rest. I'm not trying to get into yalls pissing contest. I don't care about a seatbelt rule, except as it's now written is fine with me. I was just making an observation as simply that, not advocating for making a rule change or something else for us to police. I was just saying I have always thought it was humorous how some (most) coaches feel a need (entitled) to stand and talk the whole game, regardless of what they are saying.
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2017, 04:56pm
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Well at the end of the day, what matters are what the people you work for think. That is really all that matters. If you live in an area that does not care, then you can have whatever position you like on this. But there are places that make this an issue, after all it is a rule. And if it wasn't a rule, we might have coaches in front of the opponents bench or at the 3 point line because they can. Heck we could just have coaches sit and not worry about where they stand. Makes no difference to me honestly.

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Old Sun Feb 05, 2017, 06:20pm
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Well at the end of the day, what matters are what the people you work for think. That is really all that matters. If you live in an area that does not care, then you can have whatever position you like on this. But there are places that make this an issue, after all it is a rule. And if it wasn't a rule, we might have coaches in front of the opponents bench or at the 3 point line because they can. Heck we could just have coaches sit and not worry about where they stand. Makes no difference to me honestly.

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I remember several years ago Tubby Smith was on the endline during play where he would of been in the L's pocket if the L was on that side and working out wide.

Back several years ago when I was doing a lot of youth rec league, I had a female coach that would of been in the opposing coaches box had there been lines. Took me a while to figure out what was wrong with it as its not something I would ever expect to see.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2017, 09:58am
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When I post in threads, it's done as a member. Period.

If I cross a line, any of the other Moderators have carte blanche to delete the post or counsel me in our private FB group.

I'm a bully? Really? Would you have thought that from any other poster? Did I once threaten to ban you or even implicitly throw any moderator weight around in this thread?
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2017, 10:42am
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When I post in threads, it's done as a member. Period.

If I cross a line, any of the other Moderators have carte blanche to delete the post or counsel me in our private FB group.

I'm a bully? Really? Would you have thought that from any other poster? Did I once threaten to ban you or even implicitly throw any moderator weight around in this thread?
Rich, I don't know you. I am sure you are a great guy like crosscountry55 said. The response "so" is right up there with "why is this even an issue" as far as disrespect. We are not standing in the same room, if you don't like what someone says, you don't have to reply. Those responses are an attempt to project superiority; a bully tactic.

I am not very PC. I will call things how I see them. On that note, Crosscountry55 did use the acronym "OMG" and has lost all big boy privileges; my 7th grade daughter uses that term.

I think this a great tool for officials to gain a lot of insight into many situations. I have read about situations on here that I have not encountered yet but feel prepared if I ever face them. I have also read about how different officials handle different situations and have incorporated that into how I conduct myself. People cannot be afraid to share thoughts because someone will answer with a "so" or "why is this an issue". Be helpful and create good dialog. Except for Crosscountry55, he talks like a 7th grade girl. Not that there is anything wrong with that if you are a 7th grade girl.

I am very sorry for the hardship this may have caused. I am sincerely sorry.

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Old Mon Feb 06, 2017, 10:53am
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Rich, I don't know you. I am sure you are a great guy like crosscountry55 said. The response "so" is right up there with "why is this even an issue" as far as disrespect. We are not standing in the same room, if you don't like what someone says, you don't have to reply. Those responses are an attempt to project superiority; a bully tactic.

I am not very PC. I will call things how I see them. ....
Not that IGAF either way and I haven't even read all the posts, but you can come across however you like because you are not PC, but if Rich types something you don't like he is a bully?

I'm just trying to get the proper interpretation here.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2017, 10:59am
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Not that IGAF either way and I haven't even read all the posts, but you can come across however you like because you are not PC, but if Rich types something you don't like he is a bully?

I'm just trying to get the proper interpretation here.
No, it is not because he said something I don't like. Not that IGAF about you not GAF but think harder.
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