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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:38pm
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Moderator note: I think we'll let this run for a while.
Damned right we will. I haven't been this entertained in a while. I'm willing to bet the percentage of incorrect calls in this video is under 50.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:03pm
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Damned right we will. I haven't been this entertained in a while. I'm willing to bet the percentage of incorrect calls in this video is under 50.
My random sampling ... closer to 20%
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:10pm
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Welcome to girls basketball. It is that simple to me. Because in many boys games we would not hear that complaining.

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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:14pm
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A few missed calls - but not as many as you may think! Why are you acting like you were on top of each of these calls in real time...? These seem like voice-overs.
But I'll play along: If you're this good and caught all these "missed calls" in real time? Why don't you show some bravery and put on the stripes? Come help us make the game safe, fair and an educational experience with sportsmanship for young people?
There are tons of basketball fans, lots of basketball parents, a great number of basketball players and several basketball coaches; but only a few have the courage to get out there, adjudicate the game and take the heat from the bias of the gym on any given night...
Go ahead and get frustrate during pregame, don't wait till the 2nd quarter - we don't really care!
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:17pm
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And the so called "carry" situations I saw, not a chance. I did not see a single move to the basket or to get the defender to move. Not happening at any high level of basketball and not even clear the ball came to rest. That would be a JH call to make in those situations. I could not stomach the rest honestly.

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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:51pm
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And the so called "carry" situations I saw, not a chance. I did not see a single move to the basket or to get the defender to move. Not happening at any high level of basketball and not even clear the ball came to rest.
Agree. It's called advantage/disadvantage, and despite what some on the Forum say, advantage/disadvantage does apply to some violations. Now, if she uses that move and goes by a defender, then I will probably have a whistle on the play.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:15am
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Agree. It's called advantage/disadvantage, and despite what some on the Forum say, advantage/disadvantage does apply to some violations. Now, if she uses that move and goes by a defender, then I will probably have a whistle on the play.
Which violations does it apply to?
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:22am
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Which violations does it apply to?
Ten seconds on free throw. Maybe three seconds in the lane.

Nothing involving a boundary.

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not be permitted an advantage which is not intended by a rule. Neither should
play be permitted to develop which may lead to placing a player at a disadvantage
not intended by a rule.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2017, 08:50am
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Ten seconds on free throw. Maybe three seconds in the lane.

Nothing involving a boundary.

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I'd add some travels and carries. Maybe a swinging elbow. Going out of bounds on a baseline cut. Some hitting the ball with a fist.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2017, 09:49am
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Ten seconds on free throw. Maybe three seconds in the lane.

Nothing involving a boundary.

THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE RULES
The restrictions which the rules place upon the players are intended to create a
balance of play ... is important to know the intent and purpose of a rule so that
it may be intelligently applied in each play situation. A player or a team should
not be permitted an advantage which is not intended by a rule. Neither should
play be permitted to develop which may lead to placing a player at a disadvantage
not intended by a rule.
I would add travel and carrying the ball as well.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2017, 09:39am
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Agree. It's called advantage/disadvantage, and despite what some on the Forum say, advantage/disadvantage does apply to some violations. Now, if she uses that move and goes by a defender, then I will probably have a whistle on the play.
You can't sum it up any better!

Girls games are hard enough to get flow and decent play. I'm not calling every little thing in a girls game.

On a side note, you aren't going to get the best referees when this is the level of basketball being played. Lower level refs will miss some stuff. Get used to it dad!!!!!!
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 06:27pm
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To the OP- you say you get it but every thread you start suggests otherwise. You do not seem to have a good grasp of basketball fundamentals and little understanding of officiating IMO.

You say you play year around and prepare yet I still see plenty of poor play. Just like many officials do this year around and prepare and still will make some poor calls. Because we are all human.

I would echo pretty much everything Big Cat said. You are not going to get the highest quality officials around for mediocre girls travel and even HS ball. That's just the way it is.

I actually watched this whole video as I'm very early for a game. 9 minutes of my life I will never get back. 2 things I saw worth minimal discussion.

Around the 4:20 mark is an obvious taunt that the officials should not have missed. And there are several examples of dribblers trying to split defenders that were properly no called per rule 10-7-7.

Other than that I mostly see/hear trivial complaints about marginal plays that are not conclusive even on slo-mo replay.

At this level of play as a parent or coach you have A Lot to work on in improving skill level and should really worry A Lot less about the officiating.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:56pm
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If you're this good and caught all these "missed calls" in real time?
If he "caught" all of these, then he's making 4x as many wrong calls as the 20% on here that are ACTUAL bad calls. Most of what he's complaining about are not actual violations.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 06:12pm
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If he "caught" all of these, then he's making 4x as many wrong calls as the 20% on here that are ACTUAL bad calls. Most of what he's complaining about are not actual violations.
This. Any official making calls on all these plays is going to have a short and illustrious travel league career.
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I think we should go through the video and count all the bad plays run by your team which would indicate bad coaching. I'm sure there's more of those than of the good plays they ran.
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