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Had a partner this season come in a tell me I got a OOB call wrong that happened right in front of me, so I changed my call. Later in the game, in the last 2 minutes of 1-2 point game, I'm Lead and ball goes out OOB on the opposite side of the lane after a missed free throw. Same partner is the Center on this play, I ask for help, and he says he didn't see it. ![]()
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Ignoring for a moment his stated reason and whether he was actually correct in his judgement...
His call would normally have been the right call. It happened first. If he felt the player didn't have LGP, the player didn't have LGP. Perhaps he saw something you didn't. The fact that it was in your primary is irrelevant at this point (even if he shouldn't have been there). You can't overrule his call. He can't overrule yours either. However, your travel occurred after what he judged to be a foul.....thus the ball was dead by the time your travel occurred so it didn't happen. Again, I'm not saying his call was right or advisable, but it was his call and it came first.
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We don't know that without hearing from the other official....we only have one side of the story.
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I agree with going with the incorrect blocking call. Sometimes our partner(s) make bad calls, but we can't overrule them (well... for the most part). The conversation should have gone like this...
Partner: I have a blocking foul. You: Before my travel? Partner: Yep. You: Okay. Then, when you get a chance, you can let your partner know why it was a bad call and why. |
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This is a prime example of why I HATE when people pre-game "if there's a body on the floor we MUST have a whistle." No, we don't. Rule 4-27-2 clearly states otherwise.
I'm glad the OP stuck with his call in this situation. As for takeaways on disagreeing with partners, it happens. Do what you think is best for the game and move on. Some people can't. And that's their problem IMO. Not always something you can do about people who choose to be difficult other than refuse to let them bring you down with them. |
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I shouldn't have done that. It was a locker room conversation. I was wrong to do something that out in the open. I learned from it. |
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That way if the coach questions it, we can confidently say "she tripped over her own feet" or whatever the case may be. In this case it would be "she ran into a defender who was in a legal position, and the defender did nothing wrong" |
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Agreed. Hate that statement...better to say "if there's a body on the floor, we must know how they got there"
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I agree with the concept of going with partner's call, but that involves a level of trust in your partners. I would have done as the OP did in this case, because the partner wanted to change it to a completely incorrect call just to reduce drama. I'm willing to change OOB calls, or call a travel if my partner sees one before my PC call, or a number of other things.
I can't make myself do this one, though.
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(Granted that the partner did not make the correct explanation on why his call should take precedence.) |
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