Coach Berating Players

[billyu2]

I think a case could be made to penalize the coach. Unsportsmanlike conduct is unsportsmanlike conduct. Doesn't matter who it is directed at. If the verbal abuse of the kids is unquestionably severe or vulgar, sure, the parents/school will likely deal with it later; but at the moment someone may have to step up. I would take the risk (right or wrong) of putting a stop to it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by billyu2

I think a case could be made to penalize the coach. Unsportsmanlike conduct is unsportsmanlike conduct. Doesn't matter who it is directed at. If the verbal abuse of the kids is unquestionably severe or vulgar, sure, the parents/school will likely deal with it later; but at the moment someone may have to step up. I would take the risk (right or wrong) of putting a stop to it.

It could, and there's a case play / interp to that effect. But, don't be that guy.

[packersowner]

If I felt that strongly about it, I would write an e-mail to the AD or school administrator the next day. At times, parents complaining to the AD come off as parents complaining. An official, in a neutral viewpoint, may carry more weight.

We have a VB coach in our area is sounds just like this guy. I always think to myself, I can't believe they let this guy coach/instruct youth. Its really disappointing and I am not one that believes kids need to be coddled, but dropping f-bombs in the locker room to me has no business in HS athletics.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by billyu2

I think a case could be made to penalize the coach. Unsportsmanlike conduct is unsportsmanlike conduct. Doesn't matter who it is directed at. If the verbal abuse of the kids is unquestionably severe or vulgar, sure, the parents/school will likely deal with it later; but at the moment someone may have to step up. I would take the risk (right or wrong) of putting a stop to it.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It could, and there's a case play / interp to that effect. But, don't be that guy.

I often think these questions get answered on a forum like this with different people having different visions of the context and expectations of the league. High school? Yeah, don't go there. CYO 6th grade game or YMCA game where the ref is the only authority figure besides the coaches? May go there as the expectations and standards are different. Put another way, I think an internet forum is about the worst place to get an answer to the kind of question here because beyond the high level answer, it becomes so dependent on local expectations. (It is also difficult to see how bad is bad and what lines might have been crossed.)

[stripes]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It could, and there's a case play / interp to that effect. But, don't be that guy.

+1. don't look for trouble.

[jeremy341a]

I disagree. If the Coach is being obscene or vulgar penalize. If he is merely riding his kids that is different. I am not going to hide in the corner because it would be easier or I don't want to be that guy.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

I disagree. If the Coach is being obscene or vulgar penalize. If he is merely riding his kids that is different. I am not going to hide in the corner because it would be easier or I don't want to be that guy.

Who said he was being obscene or vulgar? I can be a d!ckhead without using a single inappropriate word. If he is dropping F-bombs for all to hear, then that is within our jurisdiction to address.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Who said he was being obscene or vulgar? I can be a d!ckhead without using a single inappropriate word. If he is dropping F-bombs for all to hear, then that is within our jurisdiction to address.

I don't feel that it was described in a way that you can tell his exact actions. Therefore I put in two scenarios with if before each of them.

[BryanV21]

First we have to be a part of the fashion police, and now some want us to be a part of the moral police? No thanks.

If the NFHS, OHSAA, my assignors, or some other authority figure over me wants me to interject at some point... fine. But until then, I'm not there to teach manners to anyone.

Now, if the coach's actions/words start to affect the game, which I'm supposed to be in control of, then that's another thing. But there are people like ADs, parents, and school administrators whose job it is to control their coaches.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Who said he was being obscene or vulgar? I can be a d!ckhead without using a single inappropriate word. If he is dropping F-bombs for all to hear, then that is within our jurisdiction to address.

+1 My thoughts exactly.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by billyu2

I think a case could be made to penalize the coach. Unsportsmanlike conduct is unsportsmanlike conduct. Doesn't matter who it is directed at. If the verbal abuse of the kids is unquestionably severe or vulgar, sure, the parents/school will likely deal with it later; but at the moment someone may have to step up. I would take the risk (right or wrong) of putting a stop to it.

Please don't interject your personal morals or beliefs into this type of situation. This is for the parents or the school. The fact that this coach is coaching could mean that the parents/school are ok with it. Not our place.

[BigT]

Anyone be upset if the coach had a very tight lease that night from the officials?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by BigT

Anyone be upset if the coach had a very tight lease that night from the officials?

The leash would be the same...the first time he addresses, or tries to, the same way he talks to his players he's getting the line BNR mentioned above. "You're not going to talk to me like you do your players." He either adjusts or not, his choice.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by deecee

The leash would be the same...the first time he addresses, or tries to, the same way he talks to his players he's getting the line BNR mentioned above. "You're not going to talk to me like you do your players." He either adjusts or not, his choice.

Thanks

I feel I would go with a warning pretty quickly if border line behavior.

Monday I had a coach treating his kids badly (small school) and sure enough his true colors were showing and he treated everyone badly.

Soon it was an issue...