Vid Request: Texas vs Oklahoma

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I agree that it is a good call, but I think that the timing of the whistle and where the official is looking when he decides to make the call is a problem.

I believe that it is obvious that the official waits until the try is released and on the way down towards the basket before making the decision that he needs to have a whistle. I'm convinced that the official felt that the player was going to score a basket to give his team the lead and because of that decided to have a whistle. If the player had passed to the corner or thrown up a wild shot which likely would have missed, I believe that the official would not have put a whistle on this action.

I don't find officiating in this manner defendable.

So your criticism is based on something that didn't happen? Ok.

Originally Posted by OKREF

Looks to me like the arm never extends, and the defensive player emblishes quite a bit. Did anyone else notice right after that, when OU called the timeout, the calling official heads right to the Texas bench? My first thought was why is he even engaging them at that time.

Don't try to analyze why D1 guys (especially the big dogs) do anything like that. It won't make sense to you and won't work in the type of games you do.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

So your criticism is based on something that didn't happen? Ok.

You are saying that the official makes the call prior to the offensive player releasing his try?

You are saying that the official isn't looking at the ball on its flight towards the basket?

Both of those look clear and obvious to me in the video.

[JRutledge]

What do you got???



Peace

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It was close for sure. I also have no problem with the Lead calling this in transition the only time they should make this call. But it was close.

Peace

I thought block was good watching the initial replay but I was wrong.

Looks like I'm the only one who had a bad call from the L tonight. Official was well ahead of the baseline and had a good look.

[Nevadaref]

Nothing. He loses control of the ball before touching the floor with anything other than a hand or foot.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Don't try to analyze why D1 guys (especially the big dogs) do anything like that. It won't make sense to you and won't work in the type of games you do.

What type of games would that be?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What do you got???



Peace

I see a player fumbling the ball before losing his pivot foot.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Nothing. He loses control of the ball before touching the floor with anything other than a hand or foot.

I agree. It's a legal play. No violation.

Then there's the entertaining fan boys on the front row doing their best basketball referee impressions while begging for a traveling call. Oh, th e travesty!!!

[Dad]

I'm not saying this isn't a great call by the lead, but for the purpose of discussion...

Why not pass on this GT and let the trail possibly pick it up? Trail probably has a great angle on the block and maybe the ball started heading right 2-3 feet away from the rim with no chance at a make.

Just a thought, either way I think it's a good get.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That is an excellent call. The ball is on the way down.
The Lead seems to have the best look too.

Originally Posted by bas2456

I agree the ball was on the way down.

White 11 may have gotten a piece of the ball on the initial shot block attempt. Does that change anything?

Agree. Good call....clearly on the way down. And the lead is fine to call that in transition.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Looks to me like the arm never extends, and the defensive player emblishes quite a bit.

What does that have to do with anything? He led into the defender with the arm out....and that arm was rigid. That alone is more than enough for the foul.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I see a player fumbling the ball before losing his pivot foot.

Which foot is the pivot foot? It looks like the right foot to me which he lifts and then replants. You could make the same argument for the left foot as well.

I think its a travel before he loses control of the ball and falls down.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

What does that have to do with anything? He led into the defender with the arm out....and that arm was rigid. That alone is more than enough for the foul.

I don't think the defender was contacted enough to cause the amount of displacement he is showing. He seems to embellish quite a bit. That's all. If he had extended his arm then I could see that being enough force to move the defender that much.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I agree that it is a good call, but I think that the timing of the whistle and where the official is looking when he decides to make the call is a problem.

I believe that it is obvious that the official waits until the try is released and on the way down towards the basket before making the decision that he needs to have a whistle. I'm convinced that the official felt that the player was going to score a basket to give his team the lead and because of that decided to have a whistle. If the player had passed to the corner or thrown up a wild shot which likely would have missed, I believe that the official would not have put a whistle on this action.

I don't find officiating in this manner defendable.

Those are a lot of assumptions from which to criticize a correct call.

Maybe he just took time to process what he saw and then made the correct call.