Vid Request: Texas vs Oklahoma

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The PC against Texas in the final 30 seconds would be an intriguing play to discuss. Not necessarily the merit of the call itself, but the timing of the whistle and where the L is looking when he decides to make the call.

Looks to me like the arm never extends, and the defensive player emblishes quite a bit. Did anyone else notice right after that, when OU called the timeout, the calling official heads right to the Texas bench? My first thought was why is he even engaging them at that time.

Originally Posted by OKREF

Looks to me like the arm never extends, and the defensive player emblishes quite a bit. Did anyone else notice right after that, when OU called the timeout, the calling official heads right to the Texas bench? My first thought was why is he even engaging them at that time.

Don't try to analyze why D1 guys (especially the big dogs) do anything like that. It won't make sense to you and won't work in the type of games you do.

[JRutledge]

What do you got???



Peace

[Nevadaref]

Nothing. He loses control of the ball before touching the floor with anything other than a hand or foot.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Nothing. He loses control of the ball before touching the floor with anything other than a hand or foot.

I agree. It's a legal play. No violation.

Then there's the entertaining fan boys on the front row doing their best basketball referee impressions while begging for a traveling call. Oh, th e travesty!!!

[Dad]

I'm not saying this isn't a great call by the lead, but for the purpose of discussion...

Why not pass on this GT and let the trail possibly pick it up? Trail probably has a great angle on the block and maybe the ball started heading right 2-3 feet away from the rim with no chance at a make.

Just a thought, either way I think it's a good get.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Dad

I'm not saying this isn't a great call by the lead, but for the purpose of discussion...

Why not pass on this GT and let the trail possibly pick it up? Trail probably has a great angle on the block and maybe the ball started heading right 2-3 feet away from the rim with no chance at a make.

Just a thought, either way I think it's a good get.

Trail is nowhere in the picture. The Lead waited for the Center's whistle, which never came, so the Lead made the call late as he should.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dad

I'm not saying this isn't a great call by the lead, but for the purpose of discussion...

Why not pass on this GT and let the trail possibly pick it up? Trail probably has a great angle on the block and maybe the ball started heading right 2-3 feet away from the rim with no chance at a make.

Just a thought, either way I think it's a good get.

The play was in transition. The play is not exclusively for the T or C in transition. They often talk about the Lead calling a GT or BI if they are not settled in on the end line. Actually that has been the philosophy from the NBA who the calling official happened to be a former NBA official.

Also at issue is not just on its downward flight, but did the ball hit the backboard first. I think that is a question. Honestly, I would like an answer from the calling official what exactly was his reasoning for the call so that would tell if he felt the ball hit the backboard or not first. That is the part I was focused on mostly, but there is a case to be made this was going downward as well.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What do you got???



Peace

I see a player fumbling the ball before losing his pivot foot.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I see a player fumbling the ball before losing his pivot foot.

Which foot is the pivot foot? It looks like the right foot to me which he lifts and then replants. You could make the same argument for the left foot as well.

I think its a travel before he loses control of the ball and falls down.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I see a player fumbling the ball before losing his pivot foot.

Agreed, but I've got a travel on 5 after he gets control, before I see a foul.

[griblets]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What do you got???

Anybody else have a PC foul? Defender was significantly displaced.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by griblets

Anybody else have a PC foul? Defender was significantly displaced.

No. Not sure how the defender was displaced significantly when the ball handler falls down?

Peace

[APG]

On the offensive foul on the drive...

I'm leaning toward a no call.The amount of contact does not match up to the reaction that the defender shows. I think the defender throws his arms in a "fool the referee" manner in order to draw a foul.

[griblets]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No. Not sure how the defender was displaced significantly when the ball handler falls down?

Peace

I'm with APG, I'd probably have a no call. But watch the defender's location at the time of impact and where he lands after the impact by the ball handler. The defender is displaced 3 or 4 feet. Why shouldn't this be PC?

As it relates to the defender's displacement, I don't see the relevance of the ball handler falling after he slammed into the defender's torso.