Vid Request: Texas vs Oklahoma

[Rich]

If I'm going to call that extended forearm against the defense (one of the automatics) then I'm going to call the PC foul when the ball handler does it, too.

[griblets]

Originally Posted by Rich

If I'm going to call that extended forearm against the defense (one of the automatics) then I'm going to call the PC foul when the ball handler does it, too.

100% agree on the extended forearm.

That's why I'm wondering why nobody else has a PC foul on the travel play. A1 bangs into the torso of B1, who had LGP, and was displaced several feet. If B1 had created that kind of contact on A1, I think we all would agree it's a foul.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by griblets

100% agree on the extended forearm.

That's why I'm wondering why nobody else has a PC foul on the travel play. A1 bangs into the torso of B1, who had LGP, and was displaced several feet. If B1 had created that kind of contact on A1, I think we all would agree it's a foul.

Judgement. In this case, while there might be some displacement, the contact did not prevent B1 from performing any defensive movements. In fact, it simply knocked A1 to the floor.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by griblets

100% agree on the extended forearm.

That's why I'm wondering why nobody else has a PC foul on the travel play. A1 bangs into the torso of B1, who had LGP, and was displaced several feet. If B1 had created that kind of contact on A1, I think we all would agree it's a foul.

Banging into the torso isn't an automatic.

I figure if it's an automatic foul on B, why should A be able to do it?

[griblets]

Originally Posted by Rich

I figure if it's an automatic foul on B, why should A be able to do it?

That's the point I'm making. I'm not saying I would have called it, but I was surprised that nobody was discussing that part of the play.

(Talking about the travel video)

[Rich]

Originally Posted by griblets

That's the point I'm making. I'm not saying I would have called it, but I was surprised that nobody was discussing that part of the play.

(Talking about the travel video)

Nothing in that video is an automatic.

And I agree with some others here. One video per thread is what's going to be considered best practices going forward.

Edited to say: This has revealed a schism between the moderators, so we'll be discussing it further. In the meantime, please clearly mention which play you're talking about.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rich

Edited to say: This has revealed a schism between the moderators, so we'll be discussing it further. In the meantime, please clearly mention which play you're talking about.

If members get a vote, I vote for one video per thread.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If members get a vote, I vote for one video per thread.

What do you do if people ask for several plays in one thread? Part of this is member driven.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by griblets

100% agree on the extended forearm.

That's why I'm wondering why nobody else has a PC foul on the travel play. A1 bangs into the torso of B1, who had LGP, and was displaced several feet. If B1 had created that kind of contact on A1, I think we all would agree it's a foul.

Again, because that is acceptable contact. The ball handler falls, so not sure what disadvantage he is put at when the guy that comes at him falls.

And I think your "several feet" is an exaggeration. He moves, but not as much as the ball handler.

This is why you see the play start, develop and finish. If you call a play in the start process, you call a foul that obviously did not need to be called. If the ball handler does not drop the ball, we have a travel for sure.

Again, all contact is not a foul. Players are not going to be stationary when contacted. Obviously a guy that did some weights stood his ground and was still in position to keep his position and helped cause the ball handler to fall.

Peace