Texas A&M vs Oklahoma

[CK]

Watching Live, so maybe I didn't see correctly. Any one who did, please help.

A1 drives to the basket, shoots and ball goes in. L makes call and points other direction (towards B) (No PC signal). Counts the basket and goes to the other end to shoot 1&1. HTBT, but A1 was airborne. I am sure I missed something. Please explain. I would understand this if A1 had come back to the floor, but it was obvious A1 was airborne. I am a ref and NOT a Fanboy.

Thanks in advance

[JPNY25]

Didn't see it, but sounds like an off-ball foul by another team A player during the shot. Non shooting foul, but in bonus ... thus a 1&1 at other end of the court.

Basket by A1 counts as well.

[Adam]

In NCAA men, player control ends when the shot is released. Therefore, if an airborne shooter commits a charging foul after he releases the shot, it is not considered a PC foul. Free throws would be shot by the fouled player if the bonus is in effect.

[kwv001]

I didn't see it, but here is my guess as to what happened.

Unlike the NFHS, the NCAA men's game does not have an airborne shooter rule. Player control ends when the ball leaves the shooter's hand on the try. Therefore if the foul occured after the ball was gone, it would result in the goal being counted and a 1+1 for the defense.

[CK]

Thanks everyone, I thought it had to do with NCAA vs NF rules, but just did not know. Once again thank you to everyone, excpecially Snaqs, who always gets it right on.

Collins

[Adam]

Originally Posted by kwv001

I didn't see it, but here is my guess as to what happened.

Unlike the NFHS, the NCAA men's game does not have an airborne shooter rule. Player control ends when the ball leaves the shooter's hand on the try. Therefore if the foul occured after the ball was gone, it would result in the goal being counted and a 1+1 for the defense.

This is close, but not quite accurate. There is an airborne shooter rule, but it's purpose is to protect the shooter. An airborne shooter may still get two shots if he's fouled prior to landing, but if he commits a foul it is not considered PC.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

In NCAA men, player control ends when the shot is released. Therefore, if an airborne shooter commits a charging foul after he releases the shot, it is not considered a PC foul. Free throws would be shot by the fouled player if the bonus is in effect.

We used to have this in NFHS rules many, many years ago. It was a call that seemed to please, or displease, both coaches equally. One team would get a charging foul, but would get to keep the basket if it went in. The other team would get to shot one and one if in the bonus. You could get complaints from both coaches in stereo, but often heard nothing from either bench.

I hope that I'm not the only one who remembers this? Jurassic Referee? Snaqwells? JRutledge? Scrapper1? BktBallRef? JugglingReferee? Mark Padgett? bob jenkins? I know that Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. remembers this, and if it's not too cold in his attic, he'll tell us when the NFHS made the change. Or Nevadaref, our Forum old interpretations expert (old interpretations, not old official), might tell us from memory.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I hope that I'm not the only one who remembers this? Jurassic Referee? Snaqwells? JRutledge? Scrapper1? BktBallRef? JugglingReferee? Mark Padgett? bob jenkins? I know that Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. remembers this, and if it's not too cold in his attic, he'll tell us when the NFHS made the change. Or Nevadaref, our Forum old interpretations expert (old interpretations, not old official), might tell us from memory.

I am not as old as you think and I was not officiating when the rule was like the current NCAA Rule at our level. I have no idea when the rule was changed. I did hear that the rule was the same; I just do not think that was the case when I was playing in the 80s.

Peace