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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 02:44pm
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I can see that. I was more addressing those who were writing, "nothing justifies the assault, but the call was wrong." I'm just not interested in discussing the accuracy of his call.
The point of that is that if he got the call right, none of this would have ever happened.
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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 02:50pm
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The point of that is that if he got the call right, none of this would have ever happened.
So what? I don't see how this is relevant at all.
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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 02:57pm
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The point of that is that if he got the call right, none of this would have ever happened.
Yep, and I stopped caring about that with the assault. I'm willing to discuss that, within reason, when a coach gets a technical foul after a missed call.

Assault and battery changes that for me.
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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 03:05pm
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I can see that. I was more addressing those who were writing, "nothing justifies the assault, but the call was wrong." I'm just not interested in discussing the accuracy of his call.

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The point of that is that if he got the call right, none of this would have ever happened.
The call could have been 100% correct and still evoked the same reaction.

Coaches' opinions of plays are quite often wrong.
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Coaches' opinions of plays are quite often wrong.
Shocked I tell ya. Shocked I am!

Maybe in Hampton Roads, but not up here! Just ask em, they'll tell ya!
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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 03:18pm
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The call could have been 100% correct and still evoked the same reaction.

Coaches' opinions of plays are quite often wrong.
It certainly could, but we'll never know.

I've never said anything that suggests the coach has an excuse for behaving as he did. He should be charged with crime for his actions. He was way beyond a reasonable reaction to a call, whether right or wrong.

Either way, that doesn't erase the face that the call that led to it was also wrong. And most of what we work on and discuss here is getting the calls right. It can' t hurt to discuss that too and discuss the potential consequences of getting calls wrong.
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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 03:22pm
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It certainly could, but we'll never know.

I've never said anything that suggests the coach has an excuse for behaving as he did. He should be charged with crime for his actions.

Either way, that doesn't erase the face that the call that led to it was also wrong. And most of what we work on and discuss here is getting the calls right. It can' t hurt to discuss that too and discuss the potential consequences of getting calls wrong.
I have not seen an angle that I am satisfied with the correctness of the call. All I have seen is an angle from the other side of the court and not the angle of the calling official. I also doubt it was just that call. There was probably other things that got him upset.

If you look at a video of when Boehiem was ejected, even Jay Bilas said that JB actions were unacceptable and it was his actions that cost the game.

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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 03:31pm
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I have not seen an angle that I am satisfied with the correctness of the call. All I have seen is an angle from the other side of the court and not the angle of the calling official.
I'm glad you said this - I never thought this play was as clear cut and obvious as some people have stated, but I really didn't want to open that can of worms myself.
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I'm glad you said this - I never thought this play was as clear cut and obvious as some people have stated, but I really didn't want to open that can of worms myself.
I too didn't see that it was an "obvious" block because we only have one camera angle and it wasn't the point of the thread. But does anybody really think that would make a difference? I'm skeptical.
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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 03:49pm
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I too didn't see that it was an "obvious" block because we only have one camera angle and it wasn't the point of the thread. But does anybody really think that would make a difference? I'm skeptical.
Not at all, and that's another reason I didn't bother bringing it up - the thread was about the reaction, not that the call was blown. I just saw people right away saying it was an obvious blown call and I looked at the video several times and I still wasn't sure. I'm just glad he said it so I don't feel like I was the only one who doesn't see it was that bad of a call. I don't want to hijack the thread with that discussion.
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I'm glad you said this - I never thought this play was as clear cut and obvious as some people have stated, but I really didn't want to open that can of worms myself.
For all we know, that might have been the young guy that called the foul and the veteran (Who was said to be the R in this game) came to help him out so that the coach would behave.

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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 04:10pm
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For all we know, that might have been the young guy that called the foul and the veteran (Who was said to be the R in this game) came to help him out so that the coach would behave.

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Very true - we can't just assume because the L was older that he was the senior official on the floor. Can't judge a book by its cover.
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