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I think so to. Self was on him about a call just before that, I think it was a block/charge play. When he blew his whistle Self just lost it.
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True, but if you miss it (i.e. you're not sure), you don't put air in the whistle. That's what tells me that he either anticipated or guessed. Still a great official. Just a regrettable moment. It happens. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I'm normally the last guy in the room to complain about officiating... but there were a ton of cringe-worthy calls (both ways) in this game. I know these guys are the top of the pile, ref-wise... but it felt like they were overmatched in this one, and it got worse as they got tired.
I don't know that they cost either team the game, per se, but I don't feel like we got to see who would have really won. I feel like we, the fans, got short-changed. The non-call on the steal at the end was nearly unforgivable, though - the defender contacted the inbounder twice, hard - no call on either.
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I like discussions like these as long as we don't rip this very talented official (which we aren't). It was a play he just shouldn't have put air in his whistle because he couldn't see it. It's no different than when a player is going away from you and he/she may travel but you can't see whether the ball is held or not. I made a similar call like this last weekend. Mine was correct (from video) but I couldn't see it. The coach jumped me a bit on it and said how can you call that you were completely straight lined. It didn't warrant a T but I quickly said "we can talk about it next time I'm by you." It was a collegiate men's game so I went away from the table after reporting. I got near the coach about 2 transitions later and told him he was correct, I didn't have a good enough look at it and it wouldn't happen again tonight. He said, "well, the video board showed you were right but I appreciate you admitting you were straight lined. I just wish more refs would be honest with us." I got very lucky and the minute I hit the whistle I knew I was guessing. I'm actually quite good at holding the whistle in that but I just made an error. I wonder what the coach would have said if the video board showed I completely kicked the call. I would have had the same response, but I don't think he would have been so polite with our follow up conversation........ |
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It seems like a game of this magnitude can make even the most seasoned crew tend to over-officiate. Subconscious stuff. Nice to know the next time you kick a call that D1 officials are also human just like you. Tough one on that last throw-in. Seriously, how many of us would have the guts to make a call in that situation? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I haven't seen the play, but are you sure about that? One of the other posters claims the inbounder was hit twice. There is no warning for that, it goes directly to FF1 on the first hit.
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Looking at the replay, it appears the contact was less egregious than I thought, and may have been over the court, if that matters. He definitely hits his arm though.
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Any contact with the thrower in is an IF.
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Bill surely knows how to work the refs. I rem'ber speaking with a colleague ref of mine who attended the "Bill Self Summer Camp" and worked as a volunteer ref for the scrimmages. He told me that coach Self said to his players: "if you ever disagree with a call--and you will, then it will all work out in the end, the refs tend to balance the calls, so it all works out in the end, just keep playing hard."
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