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I'm calling a violation, but here's why I say jump ball. Looks like there's probably a hand on the ball when she starts swinging. If you're not going to call the violation then she's using undue roughness to get the ball away. Imo, calling a jump ball is better than waiting for someone to get wacked. Violation is the much better call, no question.
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WHy don't you start a new thread instead of trying to derail this one?
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Heaven forbid we would want to discuss how to improve as officials. And my comment did talk about the existing play, I said white 4 could be called for a push immediately prior to getting popped in the face. Have a nice day.
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*Evidently 'ballgame99' is referring to the use of 'preventive officiating'; which is a point well-taken. From my perch, I've seen some rebounders (A1) who immediately use the "chin it" technique when they have obtained control of the rebound. Visualize: holding ball close to chest with elbows horizontal and static. Now, if B1 want to nit-pik and swipe at the ball (instead of playing patient on-ball defense) once it's in that secured position, then I will call a 'hit' foul on B1 to prevent A1 from having to escalate his/her protective measures (i.e., by the use of 'elbow swinging')--ergo a turnover for team A due to the violation cited in "9-13-1-Penalty". So, I guess one could say that I tend to err towards the 'rebounder's rights' to protect the ball/posession instead of penalizing him/her.
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I've already made my case for what I said. Doubt anything else is going to appease you.
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I feel trying to justify a held ball is only cause one saw the end result of this video. In no world is the action in the video close to a held ball. Sometimes, **** happens.
I'd lean toward a flagrant foul. Wind up, impact, follow through....there's at least two on this play...impact above shoulders and a follow through.
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I had that thought previously as well, but then thought no, because the T would deserve to have a whistle of it's own on it as well, and there was no second whistle to go with the T.
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