Swinging elbow contact (video)

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Dad

Probably could've called two jumps balls or a violation for excessive swinging of elbows. I'm pretty quick on jumps balls at this level when stupid stuff is liable to happen if you let it go. Again, could've called a violation also. Waiting was probably a mistake.

If it gets to an elbow in the face. Someone is probably sitting for the night.

Umm, no. As someone else mentioned you don't make stuff up just for the sake of expediency.

Better option, since that's what took place. The whistle, hopefully, stops the swinging and keeps other players from getting close to the BH/D.

After the L mistakenly called the T - or even if he hadn't called a T - it would've been a good idea for both officials to get together and talk about what just happened. In an ideal world that allows them to make the proper ruling (maybe the T says, "Hey, that can't be a technical foul because it was a live ball."). His initial signal should have been a PC foul and then go up from there after a chat with his partner.

As for White #34, I'm in favor of a T because she was clapping towards the offending team. That's taunting. If she's walking away from the incident I say leave it alone. At any rate, that would've been something else for the officials to discuss when/if they got together.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Umm, no. As someone else mentioned you don't make stuff up just for the sake of expediency.

Better option, since that's what took place. The whistle, hopefully, stops the swinging and keeps other players from getting close to the BH/D.

I agree. There are NO jump balls that I see in this video. There were several times opponents try to get their hands on the ball but it takes more than touching the to get a jump.

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

After the L mistakenly called the T - or even if he hadn't called a T - it would've been a good idea for both officials to get together and talk about what just happened. In an ideal world that allows them to make the proper ruling (maybe the T says, "Hey, that can't be a technical foul because it was a live ball.").''

We don't really know if he was calling a T as much as he might have just not known the signal for what he was calling. We don't have enough of the video to know what happened next (who shot the FTs and where they resumed play). It could be that the did it right and it was just an incorrect signal. I did that once a couple of years ago.....my initial signal for a live ball situation was a T and I instantly know the signal was wrong and correctly dealt with it as an intentional foul.

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

His initial signal should have been a PC foul and then go up from there after a chat with his partner.

If you think something is an Intentional foul, it isn't a PC at all and the PC signal would actually also be incorrect. I go straight to the X signal if i think something is an IF. I don't have a problem upgrading if I've gone only PC first if a partner gives me more info but I see no reason to go with a PC signal initially on this.

[biggravy]

Not likely, but possible that L had a foul, she said something immediately and he then had a T... he may just be guilty of quick signals.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by biggravy

Not likely, but possible that L had a foul, she said something immediately and he then had a T... he may just be guilty of quick signals.

I had that thought previously as well, but then thought no, because the T would deserve to have a whistle of it's own on it as well, and there was no second whistle to go with the T.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

His initial signal should have been a PC foul and then go up from there after a chat with his partner.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

If you think something is an Intentional foul, it isn't a PC at all and the PC signal would actually also be incorrect. I go straight to the X signal if i think something is an IF. I don't have a problem upgrading if I've gone only PC first if a partner gives me more info but I see no reason to go with a PC signal initially on this.

My mistake. I should have written the L's initial signal should have been a fist in the air. After that the crew can get together and discuss.