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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 09:26am
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Sleeves, etc '15-'16

Sorry, I haven't been on in awhile, do not have '15-'16 books yet, so before posting did a search on this subject, finding the last discussion of the topic was last May, ending in a disagreement between two posters that resulted in a closed thread. Not wanting to start that up again, but now that season is underway, there seems to be (as usual) disagreement in our area over this still. As I understand it, was the final interp that headbands or wristbands must be black, white, or beige, but must also be ALL same color among same team members? And...that if leg or arm sleeves or compression shorts are worn they must also match the headbands or wristbands among teammates? Was it decided that if NO head or wrist bands are worn that then the compression items must still conform to the matching color rule? Is there any language stating ANY of these items (other than an undershirt of course) must match the predominant color of the uniform? Could a team wearing all white unis have kids with black knee or arm sleeves?
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 09:36am
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EVERYTHING (sleeves, bands) must be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the uniform.

EVERYTHING (sleeves, bands) must be the same color for all team members.

The items (bands, sleeves), however, do not need to match the predominant color of the uniform. They just need to match each other, for all team members, and be one of the potential four colors listed above.

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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 09:38am
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Tshirts -- must match the jersey.

All other items (headbands, wrist bands, arm sleeves, leg sleeves) -- must be white, black, beige or jersey color; all must match for all players (on a team)
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:57am
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EVERYTHING (sleeves, bands) must be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the uniform.

EVERYTHING (sleeves, bands) must be the same color for all team members.

The items (bands, sleeves), however, do not need to match the predominant color of the uniform. They just need to match each other, for all team members, and be one of the potential four colors listed above.

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Yes, they do. All items have to be the same color for all team members and must be white, black, beige, or the predominate color of the jersey being worn. I'm confused though because your first sentence says they have to be the predominate color of the uniform.

On a side rant: Why can't they just settle on a headband/wristband/sleeve rule and stick with it? Why the constant update to the rule EVERY year? The headband rule has actually gotten more strict, since you used to be able to wear headbands that were any school color. Now they have to match the jersey color along with the other items. It's like the committee has nothing else to do so they decide "Hey lets tinker with the headband/sleeve rule again this year for the fun of it".
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:10am
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Yes, they do. All items have to be the same color for all team members and must be white, black, beige, or the predominate color of the jersey being worn. I'm confused though because your first sentence says they have to be the predominate color of the uniform.

On a side rant: Why can't they just settle on a headband/wristband/sleeve rule and stick with it? Why the constant update to the rule EVERY year? The headband rule has actually gotten more strict, since you used to be able to wear headbands that were any school color. Now they have to match the jersey color along with the other items. It's like the committee has nothing else to do so they decide "Hey lets tinker with the headband/sleeve rule again this year for the fun of it".
School color is not easily defined for every official walking into a gym to know the official school colors of every school they work.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:21am
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Crap, just when I was going to thank you for this clarification, it appears there's still a difference of opinion. Do they or do they NOT have to match the predominate uniform color?
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:26am
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The items (bands, sleeves), however, do not need to match the predominant color of the uniform. They just need to match each other, for all team members, and be one of the potential four colors listed above.
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Yes, they do. All items have to be the same color for all team members and must be white, black, beige, or the predominate color of the jersey being worn. I'm confused though because your first sentence says they have to be the predominate color of the uniform.
They don't have to be the predominant color of the jersey, however they can be the predominant color of the jersey...

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3-5-3c All sleeves/tights shall be the same solid color and must be the same color as any headband or wristband worn.

3-5-4a Headbands and wristbands shall be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the jersey and the same color for each item and all participants. They must be the same color as any sleeve/tights worn.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:27am
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Crap, just when I was going to thank you for this clarification, it appears there's still a difference of opinion. Do they or do they NOT have to match the predominate uniform color?
They need to be white, black or beige... If they are any other color than those three it needs to be the predominate color of the jersey.

In my opinion the rule is very easy to understand.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:28am
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Headbands, sleeves, wristbands, must be black, white, beige, or the predominate color of the uniform, Headbands, sleeves, wristbands, must be the same color, and all team members must match.

You may not have white sleeves on legs and black headbands. I don't get why this is so hard to understand.

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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:42am
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This is why it is so hard. The Fashion Policy rules keep changing. With such a complicated rule book and now such a simple rule about this we are over thinking it because that is what we do. Test tries to catch up. The rules try to catch us. The case book tries to catch us. Now we have the simplest rule (finally) on clothing and our minds say it cant be that simple can it?

It is awesome and I pray it will stay this simple for 25 years....
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:53am
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This is why it is so hard. The Fashion Policy rules keep changing. With such a complicated rule book and now such a simple rule about this we are over thinking it because that is what we do. Test tries to catch up. The rules try to catch us. The case book tries to catch us. Now we have the simplest rule (finally) on clothing and our minds say it cant be that simple can it?

It is awesome and I pray it will stay this simple for 25 years....
Save your prayers . . . it won't . . . Manufacturers, marketers and other $-concerns will find new and wonderful ways to stretch the rule(s), and aggravate the sensisibilities of all involved . . .
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 12:00pm
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In my opinion the rule is very easy to understand.
Me too, but it won't be easy for coaches until about 5 years after the stop changing the rule.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 12:16pm
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They need to be white, black or beige... If they are any other color than those three it needs to be the predominate color of the jersey.

In my opinion the rule is very easy to understand.
Exactly, It wasn't hard to understand, and I thought I did, until he contradicted the first poster and said they had to match uniform. Having them ALL same color black, white or beige (never seen beige by the way unless it's dirty white) is certainly the easiest and most sensical ruling.
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Old Fri Nov 13, 2015, 01:26pm
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Exactly, It wasn't hard to understand, and I thought I did, until he contradicted the first poster and said they had to match uniform. Having them ALL same color black, white or beige (never seen beige by the way unless it's dirty white) is certainly the easiest and most sensical ruling.
I didn't see any actual contradiction....just misunderstanding of what others actually said.
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