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Old Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:25pm
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UVA Vandy collision (Video)

Can one of the NCAA guys explain what the decision on the baserunners was in the 8th on the collision at third?

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Old Wed Jun 25, 2014, 07:36am
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They called the runner out for OFFENSIVE INTERFERENCE, not out because he was tagged.

6-2-g:
A.R. 2—
If the umpire declares the batter, batter-runner or a runner out for offensive
interference, all other runners shall return to the last base that was legally attained at the time of the interference.

Third base still legally belonged to the runner who was called out for interference, therefore the following runner was only legally entitled to second.
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2014, 08:00am
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Didn't see the play, but the same ruling would hold true in OBR and FED.
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2014, 08:03am
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I don't see how that MC wasn't called on Papi. You could clearly see that he dropped his shoulder into F5.
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2014, 01:15pm
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2014, 03:12pm
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I don't see how that MC wasn't called on Papi. You could clearly see that he dropped his shoulder into F5.
Just curious on this sitch... how is he supposed to get back to the base with the fielder standing directly in his way?
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2014, 03:32pm
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Just curious on this sitch... how is he supposed to get back to the base with the fielder standing directly in his way?
Somehow other than dropping his right shoulder and plowing into F5. I'm not arguing that the fielder is between the runner and 3B, I'm saying he dropped his shoulder, should have been MC.
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2014, 03:34pm
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Just curious on this sitch... how is he supposed to get back to the base with the fielder standing directly in his way?
The easy answer is ... he's not.

The fielder has the ball and is between him and the base... why would you think there must be a way that he's "supposed" to get back to the base?
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Old Sat Jun 28, 2014, 01:42pm
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I don't see how that MC wasn't called on Papi. You could clearly see that he dropped his shoulder into F5.
You must have seen a different view. All I see from the video provided is a very short clip of a runner a step from the base who could be falling forward or could be lowering a shoulder.
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Old Sun Jun 29, 2014, 01:26am
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You must have seen a different view. All I see from the video provided is a very short clip of a runner a step from the base who could be falling forward or could be lowering a shoulder.
I saw the play while watching the game.
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Old Thu Jun 26, 2014, 01:15pm
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Didn't see the play, but the same ruling would hold true in OBR and FED.
So in OBR, a runner collides at home with the catcher waiting with the ball, and the runner would be ruled out for interference, and we send the previous runner who is now standing on third back to second? I've never seen that called in OBR.
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Old Thu Jun 26, 2014, 02:13pm
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So in OBR, a runner collides at home with the catcher waiting with the ball, and the runner would be ruled out for interference, and we send the previous runner who is now standing on third back to second? I've never seen that called in OBR.
Not at all what I said.

Given that there was INT during the rundown, R2 would be returned to second even if he was touching third at the time of INT.
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Old Thu Jun 26, 2014, 01:23pm
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Third base still legally belonged to the runner who was called out for interference, therefore the following runner was only legally entitled to second.
Really? If that were the case, then the defense could tag a following runner who is standing on third base before tagging out a lead runner caught in a rundown between third and home, and get credited with a double play. Surely the following runner is legally entitled to third until the lead runner returns and occupies third as well.
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Old Thu Jun 26, 2014, 02:14pm
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Really? If that were the case, then the defense could tag a following runner who is standing on third base before tagging out a lead runner caught in a rundown between third and home, and get credited with a double play. Surely the following runner is legally entitled to third until the lead runner returns and occupies third as well.
Not true. He can't be tagged out if he is the only one on the base, but he doesn't legally occupy it.

There's a specific comment in the rule book on this play that applies.
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Old Thu Jun 26, 2014, 02:41pm
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Not true. He can't be tagged out if he is the only one on the base, but he doesn't legally occupy it.
Then I guess I've been misunderstanding OBR 7.01 all these years.
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