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Force Out?
In the OP, is the runner trying to get back to the bag because he didn't tag up, thus making it a force out?
Because on a play which requires the runner to be tagged, touching a runner with the glove and the ball in the other hand does not lead to an out. The ball must be in the glove if the glove is used to tag him. From NFHS Rules By Topic (pg 85) "The tag must include the ball. If the ball isn't in the glove, the glove touching the runner has no effect."
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It's stuff like that is why this forum doesn't hold water anymore...think about it. He more that likely knows the right answer, but not the terminology.
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I just know you have the knowledge, and experience to give a better and/or detailed explanation than the one provided. That is what the place is here for. I guess I was wrong in expecting more from you.
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To the OP - sorry for the wrong answers above. This should have been an out.
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Whoa
you all need to relax. It's probably responses like these that keep a lot of newer guys from posting all of their questions, which is a shame.
I merely asked for a clarification to the OP because it wasn't immediately clear to me. Re-reading what i wrote, I can see how one might interpret my post as saying the runner needed to be tagged. This is NOT what i was saying. I'm well aware of the rules, as i said "Because on a play which requires the runner to be tagged..." I was not saying that on THAT play the runner had to be tagged. I admit I used the wrong terminology, consider me properly flogged. ![]() In my citation of the rule about tagging, I was trying to contrast the requirements for touching a base on an appeal play and the requirements for touching a runner on a tag play....where it certainly matters what hand the ball is in! Thanks for the civil response Bob. All you other Francises need to lighten up.
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Ok, fair enough - we misunderstood your intent... given your clarification, though ... what did you mean by: "is the runner trying to get back to the bag because he didn't tag up?" Why is that something you wanted to know to make the proper ruling? (IOW -- if you knew it was appeal play, why did that matter?)
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One of the most important things an umpire can do is to "use proper terminology" especially when you do have a play that requires you to "discuss" the rule with a coach etc., Learning to use the right terminology here on the boards should help you to remember that when you have a banger play and everyone is screaming and yelling for an explanation etc, After this thread it should be easy to remember at least one thing - its not a force play. That can help especially a "newer" guy. At least that's my take Thanks David |
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