ASA Rules Question/Interpretation Please

Tsmokie · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 16, 2002, 02:25pm

I attended an ASA clinic last week, and now I'm confused on a rule I thought I knew for sure. If anyone can give me a better reference or an interpretation it sure would be appreciated. Here is the situation:

Long fly ball to the fence, the ball hits the outfielders glove, in fair territory and goes over the outfield fence in foul territory. What is the award?

I have always been taught that it would be a ground rule double based on rule 8 section6 i. on page 112 of this years ASA rule book, it says "also, when it deflects off of a defensive player and goes out of play in foul territory, deflects off a runner or umpire and goes out of play after having passed an infielder excluding the pitcher etc.,"

According to our clinician last week it would be a 4 base award, when I brought up this reference he said that only applies to plays in the infield. Well, needless to say I still don't agree, and he could not give me a reference.

Can someone please clarify this for me or give me a better reference.

Thanks

TMSOKIE

oppool · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 16, 2002, 03:13pm

"A batted ball hitting a defensive player in fair territory, but going over the fence in FOUL territory is a TWO base award."

Don

Dakota · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 16, 2002, 03:36pm

So, I also was looking this up in the POE's, and see that Don has answered it.

I have another question.

POE 25G. A batted ball that leaves the park in fair territory and first touches the ground in foul territory...

How is this possible? Boomerang ball?

ntxblue · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 16, 2002, 04:03pm

Isn't this real close to one of the questions on the ASA exam this year?

oppool · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 16, 2002, 05:36pm

Gary

Yes it was part of the test and it was one of the question where the were two correct answers it was involving which of the below were not considered 4 base award and I am betting this is were the confusion is coming from in his association

Dakota

Dont you hate those big boulders sitting over there along right field in foul territory.(Just a guess)

Don

IRISHMAFIA · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 16, 2002, 10:14pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dakota
So, I also was looking this up in the POE's, and see that Don has answered it.

I have another question.

POE 25G. A batted ball that leaves the park in fair territory and first touches the ground in foul territory...

How is this possible? Boomerang ball?

Not only is it possible, it is quite common in any game involving a round ball, a bat and four bases.

Tsmokie · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 17, 2002, 12:16am

Thanks, that is exactly what I thought. By the way this interpretation wasn't from a local official it was from an ASA Regional Director.

greymule · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 17, 2002, 06:15am

Don't take as Gospel everything clinicians or directors tell you about rules. Over the years I have received so much wrong information that at a clinic I accept their expertise about certain things but no longer even ask about rule interpretation. Post your question here and you'll usually get a useful answer, even if there's some disagreement.