Help on rules interpretation
High-school JV game with veteran officials. One out, runner on second base. Batter lines out to centerfield, runner gets caught up the line on his way to third. Throw from CF is low and off line to second base. 2B leaves bag, traps ball and secures it, then takes ball out of his glove (not sure why), and comes back to tag the bag with his glove, beating the runner. Base umpire called runner safe and said that glove was not an extension of the baseball. I looked this situation up on some other umpire sites and saw interpretations that were 180 degrees apart. Too late now, obviously, but I'm interested to know. Citations, please.
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As long as the glove was properly worn, and the ball firmly secured in his hand, the runner should be out on appeal. I'm not going to look it up, but it's the same logic at the first baseman's foot tagging 1B when the batter-runner grounds out to F6. Those "veteran" umpires, if this story is exactly as you describe it, need to spend some time in the rule book and quit making up rules. |
Yup. I should qualify--veteran HS varsity-level officials. Your thoughts on the logic of it are exactly as mine were, but he sold the call and it was snowing at the time, so I didn't pursue it.
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Citation: Fed 8-4-2(i)
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Well if it is snowing, and your a veteran umpire and make a call of safe and I am your assignor, your next game is Freshmen Ball.
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Force Out?
In the OP, is the runner trying to get back to the bag because he didn't tag up, thus making it a force out?
Because on a play which requires the runner to be tagged, touching a runner with the glove and the ball in the other hand does not lead to an out. The ball must be in the glove if the glove is used to tag him. From NFHS Rules By Topic (pg 85) "The tag must include the ball. If the ball isn't in the glove, the glove touching the runner has no effect." |
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(Hint: There are none.) |
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Now what do I do, coach? |
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