Timing play signal in MLB

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

You've also mentioned that you train umpires. Guess that goes without saying.

Yes I train them and they are trained to properly handle the Time Play. But unfortunately not all heed the training.

[Rich]

Both of you, knock it off.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Yes I train them and they are trained to properly handle the Time Play. But unfortunately not all heed the training.

I know that's right, and probably don't even know what a time play is. Comes without saying. Just an inexperience thing that comes with the territory.

[DTQ_Blue]

Nats F2, Jesus Flores, had an interesting comment on the play in the W. Post. He said that he thought PU thought that the bases were loaded in which case in PU's mind, there would be no timing play on the first runner because the play at 3rd would be a force. That could explain why PU didn't even indicate whether or not the run scored after the 3rd out. Only when Mattingly came out to ask about the run did PU then realize that the out at 3rd was not a force.

The W. Post article didn't state whether Flores said that PU told him this or not, but this explanation is easier to conceive of than PU knowing that the runner on 3rd could be involved in a timing play but then forgetting to watch for the tag/touch. The T play signal would have been given, but PU would not be thinking that it applied to the lead runner.
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[LeeBallanfant]

So basically the 2 minor league umps Fagan and Porter got their plays right. (Fagan on the call at 3rd and Porter by sleeping at the plate and making no call) and the the two ML umpires Winters and Wegner(ML??????????????XX) got it wrong.

Ok I will cut Winters some alack, he knew Porter was in trouble and immediately came into the plate to consult with Porter but on that play Winters has to wait back at 1b for a possible play there and probably has no angle ont that. So its Wegner at 2B who has no play to call, who has to help the helpless Porter on that one and obviously he was asleep also.

Whats sad here is that Porter is a solid umpire who should be promoted and probably will have ot wait a couple of years for that.

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant

So basically the 2 minor league umps Fagan and Porter got their plays right. (Fagan on the call at 3rd and Porter by sleeping at the plate and making no call) and the the two ML umpires Winters and Wegner(ML??????????????XX) got it wrong.

Ok I will cut Winters some alack, he knew Porter was in trouble and immediately came into the plate to consult with Porter but on that play Winters has to wait back at 1b for a possible play there and probably has no angle ont that. So its Wegner at 2B who has no play to call, who has to help the helpless Porter on that one and obviously he was asleep also.

Whats sad here is that Porter is a solid umpire who should be promoted and probably will have ot wait a couple of years for that.

Actually, U2 has to be ready for a run down on this. He has to watch the play at 3B to see if R2 comes back or not. There is no help on this. PU is all alone and blew it.