Bryce Harper ejection

[Chris_Hickman]

I happen to know UES and I agree with him regarding this EJ. I think when it come to equipment we need to take in as much information as we can before deciding to eject. The spiking of a helmet on a called 3rd strike as the rat says " you have to be f%{king kidding me?" is the easy EJ. The play that CB had is it so simple.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman

I happen to know UES and I agree with him regarding this EJ. I think when it come to equipment we need to take in as much information as we can before deciding to eject. The spiking of a helmet on a called 3rd strike as the rat says " you have to be f%{king kidding me?" is the easy EJ. The play that CB had is it so simple.

Again, if hes not tossed, CB would have had a longer night in that locker room from his crew. Quit thinking about how you feel about officiating the game and understand how the Big Boys do it, Period

You don't get to the show by just being a nice guy.

[Rita C]

Watching the incident on the video, what I saw was a young man look directly at the umpire and then spike his helmet.

I do think that he spiked the helmet out of frustration for hitting into a double play. I think he was looking at the umpire for the call.

But still, he was looking at the umpire just before spiking his helmet. It's understandable that he was ejected.

The behavior problem is still the player's.

Rita

[Publius]

Originally Posted by Rita C

Watching the incident on the video, what I saw was a young man look directly at the umpire and then spike his helmet.

I do think that he spiked the helmet out of frustration for hitting into a double play. I think he was looking at the umpire for the call.

But still, he was looking at the umpire just before spiking his helmet. It's understandable that he was ejected.

The behavior problem is still the player's.

Rita

It's understandable coming from Bucknor. Two guys named Angel would have done the same. So too would, I'll bet, DJ Reyburn and Rob Drake. Nobody else I can think of would have.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Publius

It's understandable coming from Bucknor. Two guys named Angel would have done the same. So too would, I'll bet, DJ Reyburn and Rob Drake. Nobody else I can think of would have.

Bob Davidson comes to mind as one who would have run the kid.

Tim.

[JR12]

Spoiled Primadonna who got taught a lesson from an adult about how to act on a baseball field!!!

[asdf]

Originally Posted by Publius

It's understandable coming from Bucknor. Two guys named Angel would have done the same. So too would, I'll bet, DJ Reyburn and Rob Drake. Nobody else I can think of would have.

Envy is a pitiful quality to possess.

[Publius]

Originally Posted by Publius

It's understandable coming from Bucknor. Two guys named Angel would have done the same. So too would, I'll bet, DJ Reyburn and Rob Drake. Nobody else I can think of would have.

Gee, I guess I owe Drake an apology.

Cano Slams Helmet

[Steve Meyer]

Originally Posted by Publius

Gee, I guess I owe Drake an apology.

Cano Slams Helmet

I thought about this thread when I saw that, and then he directed his comments to U1. I guess the playoffs are a different animal. But so is CB. Don't think I've seen Old Sour Puss in the playoffs. Wonder why?

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by Publius

Gee, I guess I owe Drake an apology.

Cano Slams Helmet

Yeah, good restraint. You're gone in the regular season.

[Publius]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Yeah, good restraint. You're gone in the regular season.

And I wouldn't disagree with that. Cano's reaction was animated disagreement with the call, not frustration with his performance.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Yeah, good restraint. You're gone if you're not a Yankee.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Publius

You're definitely not alone. I have tons of partners who eject for things at the HS and college levels that I'd never eject for. Mostly they're injecting their own opinion concerning what's acceptable behavior instead of whether the ejection assists with game management.

Your point about Harper making the umpire having to decide motive is valid, but doesn't alter the fact that CB decided wrong.

You wouldn't eject for this in a high school game? What else do you put up with from kids? Drawing lines? Barking at you from the dugout? I don't understand how you wouldn't eject in a high school game. College players get a little more rope, but not a lot, so this would probably earn them a trip to the showers too. From what it sounds like, the pro guys on here would do it too (And some have).

Originally Posted by Publius

It's understandable coming from Bucknor. Two guys named Angel would have done the same. So too would, I'll bet, DJ Reyburn and Rob Drake. Nobody else I can think of would have.

Holbrook ejected Greinke in Houston a few weeks ago for spiking the ball. There's another guy. I bet we can come up with more if need be.

[Publius]

Originally Posted by zm1283

You wouldn't eject for this in a high school game? What else do you put up with from kids? Drawing lines? Barking at you from the dugout? I don't understand how you wouldn't eject in a high school game. College players get a little more rope, but not a lot, so this would probably earn them a trip to the showers too. From what it sounds like, the pro guys on here would do it too (And some have).



Holbrook ejected Greinke in Houston a few weeks ago for spiking the ball. There's another guy. I bet we can come up with more if need be.

A guy slamming his helmet in frustration after hitting into a DP is not, to me, something that he needs to be dumped for. I don't care if he's 14 or 40.

I'm not as full of myself as the average umpire. Players "get away" with a lot at every level when I'm on the field. A HS player can yell "F**K!" when he pops up with the bases loaded, and I don't care. A simple, "Hey, don't do that anymore, 'cause you're making us both look bad to the Puritans" has never failed to solve the "problem."

Drawing lines is an auto eject; that's showing me up. Guys who are full of themselves and who think being an umpire is some sort of higher calling often disagree with me, and that's OK. Differences of opinion on game control techniques aren't the end of the world. I have two ejections in 120 games so far this year, and I don't think I've let anybody slide that I should have run.

I don't require much from players as far as behavior: Don't show up either me, my partners, or the opponents, and you can cuss, dip, and show frustration if you want. Teaching sportsmanship is a coach's job, not mine.

Holbrook's ejection of Greinke was every bit as weak as Bucknor's, but your (and others') point is taken: I'm sure you can think of other guys who would eject, that I didn't.

[lawump]

Originally Posted by Publius

I'm sure you can think of other guys who would eject, that I didn't.

Yeah, on the MLB play that's being discussed in this thread, here they are:

Umpires: Roster | MLB.com: Official info