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I don't have a problem with Bucknor ejecting Harper here. If he doesn't want to leave, he shouldn't throw his helmet and make the umpire decide what his motives were. With that said, I don't think Harper did it maliciously and I don't think he's a punk. I think he is young and has some growing up to do and plays extremely hard. |
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Spiking gear is pretty much an automatic EJ in the the majors regardless of motive.
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Welpe: "Spiking gear is pretty much an automatic EJ in the the majors regardless of motive"
Your statement should read "Spiking gear AT AN UMPIRE OR UMPIRE'S CALL is an automatic EJ at any level" Harper slamming his helmet was NOT directed at the CB Bucknor... and if he would have waited and read the situation a little more before giving him the thumb, he would have realized that. |
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Now a spike after a called thrid strike - different story.
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Your point about Harper making the umpire having to decide motive is valid, but doesn't alter the fact that CB decided wrong. |
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Agree, he would only need to dump 2 or 3 before word gets around and everyone's job is easier.
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Anytime Harper gets ejected it is a good thing. I have no sympathy. Act like an adult if you want to play with the big boys.
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I once ejected a player in a professional game for spiking his helmet. The first base coach was on me in a second arguing the ejection, saying "what did he do?!? What did he do?!?" The manager came sprinting out of the dugout. I braced myself for what I was sure was going to be a long argument with the manager...only to have the manager run past me, go right to his player, and start yelling at his player, "we don't do that in professional baseball!" (Among other things he said to his player.)
Next inning, the first base coach came out and said, "sorry, I didn't see him spike his helmet." Professional managers, coaches and (at least, veteran) players know that spiking one's helmet after a close call is an automatic ejection. Davey Johnson's comments echo the knowledge of the vast majority of professional managers/coaches. Actually, Ozzy's "attitude" would be anything but a hindrance to him going far in the minors. I guarantee you that there is not one professional umpire (at least a professional umpire in an NAPBL or MLB league) that thinks CB's ejections was wrong. |
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I happen to know UES and I agree with him regarding this EJ. I think when it come to equipment we need to take in as much information as we can before deciding to eject. The spiking of a helmet on a called 3rd strike as the rat says " you have to be f%{king kidding me?" is the easy EJ. The play that CB had is it so simple.
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Watching the incident on the video, what I saw was a young man look directly at the umpire and then spike his helmet.
I do think that he spiked the helmet out of frustration for hitting into a double play. I think he was looking at the umpire for the call. But still, he was looking at the umpire just before spiking his helmet. It's understandable that he was ejected. The behavior problem is still the player's. Rita |
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