What happened to me (Suspended)

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by tankmjg24

One of our duties as an umpire is to enforce the rules. These rules in my situation contain the fact that the coaches are supposed to remain within their dugout unless they are base coaches. So by not enforcing this rule are we not doing our job? Sure the coaches may disagree with it, however it is still a rule. Coaches are not going to agree with every rule and the solution to this is not to just allow the coaches to do as they please. I believe that we cannot choose which rules to enforce and which rules to not. There are plenty of rules that I disagree with, however they are rules so I am going to enforce them.

Wow...

This is not Major League ball. This is a small time local youth league who has indicated how they want the rules enforced. Either do it their way or don't work their games. It's really that simple.

You remind me of the young ROTC cadet (Kevin Bacon, IRC) in "Animal House" ridiculously standing his ground at the parade and being run over by hundreds of participants.

BTW, how often do you measure the height of the mound to make sure it meets he rule?

[Gulf Coast Blue]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Wow...

This is not Major League ball. This is a small time local youth league who has indicated how they want the rules enforced. Either do it their way or don't work their games. It's really that simple.

You remind me of the young ROTC cadet (Kevin Bacon, IRC) in "Animal House" ridiculously standing his ground at the parade and being run over by hundreds of participants.

BTW, how often do you measure the height of the mound to make sure it meets he rule?

Wow.....you remind me of John Belushi who spit his mashed potatoes at everyone (while extremely funny) thought it acceptable.

You are the problem.......(and everyone who agrees with your opinion)........not the OP.

When me and my ex made sure our daughters said "Yes Sir/No Sir" and "Yes Maam/No Maam".........some thought us old fashioned.
We now have an Engineer.....a graphic desighner (damn near an architect) and a 2nd year nursing student........

Joel

[Gulf Coast Blue]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Wow...

This is not Major League ball. This is a small time local youth league who has indicated how they want the rules enforced. Either do it their way or don't work their games. It's really that simple.

You remind me of the young ROTC cadet (Kevin Bacon, IRC) in "Animal House" ridiculously standing his ground at the parade and being run over by hundreds of participants.

BTW, how often do you measure the height of the mound to make sure it meets he rule?

And BTW......I was a Park Superintendent for 8 years.....and it was my job to make sure the BB mounds were the correct height. I guess that was not important either.

People with your ideas are what is wrong with society today. Go along......do what is expected......don't rock the boat.......

Joel

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Blue

And BTW......I was a Park Superintendent for 8 years.....and it was my job to make sure the BB mounds were the correct height. I guess that was not important either.

Did anyone suggest it was wasn't? My point was the OP said he could not pick and choose rules to enforce. I'll be he doesn't enforce that one.

People with your ideas are what is wrong with society today. Go along......do what is expected......don't rock the boat.......

Joel

What the heck are you talking about? I have, repeatedly, agreed with the OP's first post.

Why I have not, and will not agree with, is the constant, after the fact whining. This is no different than a coach being the victim of a bad call in the second inning, and then wanting to re-argue the case in the third, fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh inning.

For God's sake, let it go.

[tankmjg24]

There is a big difference between the height of the mound and coaches on the playing field. One I cannot control as I am not the groundskeeper, the other I can. From watching games that I did not officiate, half of the confrontations could have been avoided had the coaches remained in the dugout. I know of one other umpire in the league who enforces the rule that the coaches must remain in the dugout. The majority of the new guys are too intimidated to confront a coach and the majority of the veterans are waiting on the time limit to hit in order to receive their cash.

One issue that I think exists is that while each age group is within the same league, they almost operate independently. For example, 12U has their own league director and assistant league directors that are different than the 10U league director and assistant league directors. The president and vice president are the only board members that are consistent. I have spoken with the 12U league director a few times and he was a very approachable nice guy with rationale. The 10U league director was a different story.

If I had to do it all over again, I would still have enforced the fact the coaches should be in the dugout. What I think I would have done differently is when the board member came out onto the field and tried to push his weight around, I would have handed him the baseballs and walked to the dressing room. The one reason I did not do this initially was that by me doing so it almost guaranteed that a bunch of 10 year olds would not get to finish their baseball game. I think that I was in a no win situation though.

To protect the innocent, I am no longer located in West Virginia and the incident did not occur there. I am now located in Alabama where the situation occurred. I guess I need to update my demographics haha.

[Gulf Coast Blue]

Originally Posted by tankmjg24

There is a big difference between the height of the mound and coaches on the playing field. One I cannot control as I am not the groundskeeper, the other I can. From watching games that I did not officiate, half of the confrontations could have been avoided had the coaches remained in the dugout. I know of one other umpire in the league who enforces the rule that the coaches must remain in the dugout. The majority of the new guys are too intimidated to confront a coach and the majority of the veterans are waiting on the time limit to hit in order to receive their cash.

One issue that I think exists is that while each age group is within the same league, they almost operate independently. For example, 12U has their own league director and assistant league directors that are different than the 10U league director and assistant league directors. The president and vice president are the only board members that are consistent. I have spoken with the 12U league director a few times and he was a very approachable nice guy with rationale. The 10U league director was a different story.

If I had to do it all over again, I would still have enforced the fact the coaches should be in the dugout. What I think I would have done differently is when the board member came out onto the field and tried to push his weight around, I would have handed him the baseballs and walked to the dressing room. The one reason I did not do this initially was that by me doing so it almost guaranteed that a bunch of 10 year olds would not get to finish their baseball game. I think that I was in a no win situation though.

To protect the innocent, I am no longer located in West Virginia and the incident did not occur there. I am now located in Alabama where the situation occurred. I guess I need to update my demographics haha.

It really does not matter what your demographics are........"stupid is as stupid does"..........

While I may not agree with 100% of the way you handled things........you were 100% correct in principle.

Joel