Does run count

[Rich]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

Isn't there a LL board somewhere?

He's just as welcome here as anyone else. Do we have minimum membership requirements?

[jchamp]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

He's just as welcome here as anyone else. Do we have minimum membership requirements?

Computer and internet access. Prefer that the poster can type plain English but if the content is intriguing enough we'll make some exceptions.

I've found a couple rats by watching the touch at home out of the corner of my eye while facing (head and body) towards the field. (Only really works well with sunglasses. If the defense coach starts shouting from the dugout I know I've got a winner. When it's an assistant coach making the comment it's also a warning. Makes for a peaceful, friendly ball game after that.

[thumpferee]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

He's just as welcome here as anyone else. Do we have minimum membership requirements?

Look, I have been a member of this board for over 11 years. I have always respected Mr. Ives' opinion. But when I hear "get in tune with how the game is played", or "you need to watch more games" to an official, he has chosen a side. This is an officials board last time I checked. Well at least that's what I signed up for. If I wanted a coaches forum, I would find one. So if Mr. Ives is going to be here, he should show some respect. We all know the game, some more than others, but that's why we're here, to learn.

I am sure in LL, Mr. Ives is GOD, or so it seems, but this is big boy baseball!

Sorry, but some of the things I have heard lately is ridiculous!

I don't feel Mr. Ives is a rat, but with some of the posts lately, I'm not sure. Winning at any cost comes to mind. Is that what LL is really about?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

Look, I have been a member of this board for over 11 years. I have always respected Mr. Ives' opinion. But when I hear "get in tune with how the game is played", or "you need to watch more games" to an official, he has chosen a side. This is an officials board last time I checked. Well at least that's what I signed up for. If I wanted a coaches forum, I would find one. So if Mr. Ives is going to be here, he should show some respect. We all know the game, some more than others, but that's why we're here, to learn.

I am sure in LL, Mr. Ives is GOD, or so it seems, but this is big boy baseball!

Sorry, but some of the things I have heard lately is ridiculous!

I don't feel Mr. Ives is a rat, but with some of the posts lately, I'm not sure. Winning at any cost comes to mind. Is that what LL is really about?

It may not seem so, but I've been here since 2000. I'm not a fan of Rich's posts when he acts like umpires are a necessary evil, but there's no reason we need to stoop to his level, either.

I have worked a lot of Little League as well as a lot of HS and college baseball. There's no need to disparage any particular level.

[thumpferee]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

It may not seem so, but I've been here since 2000. I'm not a fan of Rich's posts when he acts like umpires are a necessary evil, but there's no reason we need to stoop to his level, either.

I have worked a lot of Little League as well as a lot of HS and college baseball. There's no need to disparage any particular level.

Agree!

[3ump]

VFW ball major league rules: Runner on first ball hit to centerfield, fielder makes good catch at shoe tops and comes up throwing to get runner before return to first . Ball goes out of play and runner (a) touches back on first or (b) seeing ball go out of play goes onto third.

Second part of question: If scenario (b) once ball is put back in play can defense appeal that runner never tug up before advancing and would appeal be upheld.

[waltjp]

Yes, the defense can appeal the runner leaving too soon when the ball is put back in play.

[celebur]

Originally Posted by 3ump

where does runner belong

VFW ball major league rules: Runner on first ball hit to centerfield, fielder makes good catch at shoe tops and comes up throwing to get runner before return to first . Ball goes out of play and runner (a) touches back on first or (b) seeing ball go out of play goes onto third.

Second part of question: If scenario (b) once ball is put back in play can defense appeal that runner never tug up before advancing and would appeal be upheld.

In both (a) and (b), the runner is awarded 3B; the award is based on the runner's position at the time of the throw and thus doesn't matter whether he was advancing or returning and whether or not he completed the retouch. But the runner must still properly retouch 1B or be in jeopardy of an appeal for leaving early on the caught fly.