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Old Fri Jun 13, 2003, 12:47pm
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OBR, Babe Ruth 13-15 last night.

Bases loaded, 2 outs. Ground ball to F4, who attempts tag on R3. R3 goes beyond 3 feet to avoid tag, called out. R1 has crossed plate before attempted tag according to PU.

We ruled as force play still in effect, runs do not count.

Were we correct? Could not find in OBR, do not have access to case book.
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2003, 02:06pm
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Correct.

2.00 A FORCE PLAY is a play in which a runner legally loses his right to occupy a base by reason of the batter becoming a runner.

4.09 HOW A TEAM SCORES.
a) One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first, second, third and home base before three men are put out to end the inning. EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter runner before he touches first base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2003, 04:55pm
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Something to consider

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Originally posted by GoCamels
OBR, Babe Ruth 13-15 last night.

Bases loaded, 2 outs. Ground ball to F4, who attempts tag on R3. R3 goes beyond 3 feet to avoid tag, called out. R1 has crossed plate before attempted tag according to PU.

We ruled as force play still in effect, runs do not count.

Were we correct? Could not find in OBR, do not have access to case book.
I assume you meant F4 attempted tag on runner going from 1B to 2B---not R3.

Something you need to consider on this play is that R1 may have needed to veer from the basepath before the tag attempt to assure he was not going to have contact with F4. If that occurred, his basepath is from his location at the time F4 plays upon him, and that may not be the direct path from 1B to 2B.

R1 is restricted to HIS basepath after being played upon, not that of the field. Give him consideration in his need to avoid the fielder fielding a batted ball. That understanding may be the difference between a correct judgment and an incorrect judgment. Too many umpires in this situation only consider the direct path from 1B to 2B and don't concentrate on the entire happenings of the play around them.


Just my opinion,

Freix



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