2 Balks In The Same Inning

[ozzy6900]

I've seen these balks like these in HS ball but never in MLB!

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[BSUmp16]

The second balk certainly seems to undermine the IITBTSB theory

[Forest Ump]

Originally Posted by BSUmp16

The second balk certainly seems to undermine the IITBTSB theory

He didn't balk to 2nd base. He balked when he started and stopped his pitching motion to home.

[Tim C]

I simply thought it was a "start/stop" balk. Pretty clear to me.

T

[thumpferee]

You're still right Mr. C

I still remember you wanting to kick my arse a couple years ago

You must be getting soft, a few years ago you would have let BSUmp have it!

[BSUmp16]

Originally Posted by Forest Ump

He didn't balk to 2nd base. He balked when he started and stopped his pitching motion to home.

Yeah, I know, but the follow-up move to second made it worth mentioning - if just for fun

[teccan9nja]

What is "IITBTSB theory"?

[Carl Childress]

Originally Posted by teccan9nja

What is "IITBTSB theory"?

Let me have this since I think I was in on the creation of this idea. I posted years ago that a pitcher cannot balk on a move to second: He doesn't have to throw to base, he doesn't have to throw, even if he steps, etc.

That was translated into: It Is Impossible To Balk To Second Base.

That's what the poster meant. He didn't balk on his move to second: IIITBTSB. As Tim said: He started a pitch, stopped a pitch, and that IS a balk.

[teccan9nja]

Thanks, i haven't been on these forums very much so i haven't seen the acronym before.

[thumpferee]

Originally Posted by Carl Childress

Let me have this since I think I was in on the creation of this idea. I posted years ago that a pitcher cannot balk on a move to second: He doesn't have to throw to base, he doesn't have to throw, even if he steps, etc.

That was translated into: It Is Impossible To Balk To Second Base.

That's what the poster meant. He didn't balk on his move to second: IIITBTSB. As Tim said: He started a pitch, stopped a pitch, and that IS a balk.

Sorry Papa C, thought it was Tim C who originated the theory. Maybe I got the C's mixed up.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by Carl Childress

Let me have this since I think I was in on the creation of this idea. I posted years ago that a pitcher cannot balk on a move to second: He doesn't have to throw to base, he doesn't have to throw, even if he steps, etc.

That was translated into: It Is Impossible To Balk To Second Base.

That's what the poster meant. He didn't balk on his move to second: IIITBTSB. As Tim said: He started a pitch, stopped a pitch, and that IS a balk.

They still have to gain some ground and distance don't they?

[RPatrino]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

They still have to gain some ground and distance don't they?

I suppose if they stay in the stretch and fling the ball across their body. But seriously, the answer is still IIITBTSB, and the answer to this question is distance and direction is inherent in the move to second is it not?

[Carl Childress]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

Sorry Papa C, thought it was Tim C who originated the theory. Maybe I got the C's mixed up.

My records (emails) show I was the first to advise it was impossible to balk on a move to second. I think Tim was the first to write: IIITBTSB.

The idea has been part of my balk lecture since the early 70s. The point: There are things you can do when you move toward first that are illegal.

NOTHING you can do when you move toward second is illegal.

The balk comes on what happens before you move to second..

The balk 99.99% of the time results from the pitcher's starting a pitch and stopping it so he can throw to second. Violagtion of 8.05a.

The .01% occurs when the umpire goes to sleep.

[Carl Childress]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

You're still right Mr. C

I still remember you wanting to kick my arse a couple years ago

You must be getting soft, a few years ago you would have let BSUmp have it!

Well, he's probably wrong, but there's always the possibility that further research ....

To hell with it. Naturally, I don't want to alienate BSump so mcuh that he might not visit my site (carls brd).

But IIITBTSB.

I'll make no comment on what the "BS" in his handle stands for.

Just kidding, guys.