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Old Tue Apr 03, 2012, 04:47pm
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2012, 04:49pm
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The UIL doesn't have a lot of love for it's officials.
That's a bit of an understatement. Talk about an organization deeming you a necessary evil.
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Old Tue Apr 03, 2012, 06:22pm
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To the other posters: What would be an example of profanity you would consider minor in nature?...
Any and all. They're just words.

My rule is, "Don't call me names." By that standard, "You blind bat" is on equal footing with "You stupid MFer" and you're getting tossed for either one.

A loud "F-CK!" for taking a called third right down the middle doesn't disrespect me, the opponent, or do anything to gain an illegal advantage, so why should I care? If I wanted to teach social graces, I would've chosen a different profession.

My ejections are all in two categories: can't get him to leave any other way (protracted), and name-calling (personal). Profane without being one of the other two doesn't bother me in the least.
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Old Wed Apr 04, 2012, 09:32pm
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Any and all. They're just words.

My rule is, "Don't call me names." By that standard, "You blind bat" is on equal footing with "You stupid MFer" and you're getting tossed for either one.

A loud "F-CK!" for taking a called third right down the middle doesn't disrespect me, the opponent, or do anything to gain an illegal advantage, so why should I care? If I wanted to teach social graces, I would've chosen a different profession.

My ejections are all in two categories: can't get him to leave any other way (protracted), and name-calling (personal). Profane without being one of the other two doesn't bother me in the least.
A loud F-Bomb needs to be penalized at the HS level and below.
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Old Wed Apr 04, 2012, 10:42pm
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If you adhere to the philosophy that the field is an extension of the classroom, then we must eject for profanity.

For argument sake, what would happen if a student just received an "F" on a test and yelled **** loud enough for the whole classroom to hear?
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Old Wed Apr 04, 2012, 11:31pm
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Any and all. They're just words.

My rule is, "Don't call me names." By that standard, "You blind bat" is on equal footing with "You stupid MFer" and you're getting tossed for either one.

A loud "F-CK!" for taking a called third right down the middle doesn't disrespect me, the opponent, or do anything to gain an illegal advantage, so why should I care? If I wanted to teach social graces, I would've chosen a different profession.

My ejections are all in two categories: can't get him to leave any other way (protracted), and name-calling (personal). Profane without being one of the other two doesn't bother me in the least.
Don't you just work pro ball? F-bombs in HS ball are not acceptable, and if they are loud enough for small children (and anyone whose ears aren't garbage cans) in the crowd to hear, the offender is going away.
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Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 12:41am
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If you adhere to the philosophy that the field is an extension of the classroom, then we must eject for profanity.

For argument sake, what would happen if a student just received an "F" on a test and yelled **** loud enough for the whole classroom to hear?
I don't adhere to the philosophy. I've never seen a teacher yell at a student the way I see football, basketball, and baseball coaches yell at players.
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Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 06:19am
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So, do you think a loud F-Bomb (heard by all in attendance) by a high school player is permissable?
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Old Thu Apr 05, 2012, 07:57am
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So, do you think a loud F-Bomb (heard by all in attendance) by a high school player is permissable?
A loud F-Bomb gets a player or coach tossed. Period. 3-3-1-g-2 (NFHS). Penalty is ejection.

If it is said low enough such that only I and the catcher can hear, then I would exercise some preventive officiating and warn the offender and maybe let the coach know (discreetly) that a warning has been issued. If it is so loud that everyone can hear it, you have no choice. Dump them.

If you don't, then you can be accused of selective rule enforcement. Plus, what would you do if a kid or coach on the other team lets loose with an F-bomb loud enough for all to hear? You can't dump THEM.

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I don't adhere to the philosophy. I've never seen a teacher yell at a student the way I see football, basketball, and baseball coaches yell at players.
You obviously never met my geometry teacher.
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