Batter Runner proceeds to second with R1 on first.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by scarolinablue

We have a local HS team that routinely does this under the guise of "hustle" - we're convinced as umpires here that they do it to try to draw a throw, but there is nothing illegal about the B/R running, even passing another runner.

I'm sure you mean nothing illegal about a retired runner passing a teammate. Otherwise, the BR would be out.

I can't find it in the book, but if FED follows OBR on this point, it is explicitly legal to continue to run the bases after being put out.

[scarolinablue]

Yep, meant a retired runner passing a teammate. Thanks for clarifying!

I know I've read a case play in FED on this very topic, but don't have my books with me. I assume it is still in there.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by scarolinablue

I know I've read a case play in FED on this very topic, but don't have my books with me. I assume it is still in there.

I looked and didn't see it. Of course it might be there nonetheless...

[Steven Tyler]

Defense should be telling F4 "no runner", but trying to deke a throw as a retired batter should come under the heading of "unsportsmanlike like conduct". This is especially true if BU in B gives a clear and vocal declaration of that's a catch. The goofy basstard should be pulling up by then.

[UmpJM]

Fed case play 8.3.3I explicitly says it's legal.

JM

[kylejt]

Left hand point, right hand hammer, "He's out!"

Whatever the defense does after that is on them.

[scarolinablue]

Huh...I actually forgot I had this team tonight, after discussing this today. And yes, they still do it...basically, they are coached to run everything out to (or at least past halfway) to second base on all balls, no matter how routine.

Didn't confuse the defense in tonight's game.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Defense should be telling F4 "no runner", but trying to deke a throw as a retired batter should come under the heading of "unsportsmanlike like conduct". This is especially true if BU in A gives a clear and vocal declaration of that's a catch. The goofy basstard should be pulling up by then.

So, what is the penalty for your make believe rule?

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

So, what is the penalty for your make believe rule?

Mr. Tyler umpires in Fantasy Land where anything is possible if you just believe and click your red base shoes 3 times.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Mr. Tyler umpires in Fantasy Land where anything is possible if you just believe and click your red base shoes 3 times.

Your posts usually read like this to me: BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, etc.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Mr. Tyler umpires in Fantasy Land where anything is possible if you just believe and click your red base shoes 3 times.

I've actually seen red base shoes.

Before people get too much in a tizzy, it was a youth game with a high-school age umpire using his game cleats for his umpire shoes.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

So, what is the penalty for your make believe rule?

I said *should* not *would*.

Are you trying to make a point, or trying to pick nits?

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

So, what is the penalty for your make believe rule?

You're slipping there. I accidently used A instead of B for the position of the BU in my post, also.

[dileonardoja]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

...This is especially true if BU in A gives a clear and vocal declaration of that's a catch.

On a can of corn????? Really???

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by dileonardoja

On a can of corn????? Really???

And this wrong because...................?

Try this link. RID