Is the batter-runner out?

[M&M Guy]

I'm writing this as a fanboy with a question:

ASA slow-pitch rules - batter hits a popup to short right field. He starts to jog towards first, but it looks like an easy out, so he turns and starts walking back to the plate. The right fielder mis-judges it, and the popup falls in. The batter, meanwhile turns and sees the ball drop in, and runs towards first and makes it without a play.

The umpire calls the batter out for "retreating towards the plate". I thought this only came into play if a play is being made on the runner? Or is it in all cases, play on the runner or not? What's the appropriate rule?

Thanks.

[Dakota]

The batter-runner is only out if he reverses direction back toward the plate to avoid a tag. Since there was no tag being attempted here, the player should not have been called out.

[CecilOne]

Thank you for a real softball question.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Thank you for a real softball question.

No problem.

Is there a rule reference, or case? I happen to know the umpire personally, and he's also a good basketball official, so I didn't get into a discussion at the time, since I haven't been involved with umpiring ASA for several years. In fact, I just asked him about it in between innings well after the fact. I just want to help him out with a rule or case reference when I see him again next week.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Is there a rule reference, or case?

For ASA the rule referenced by Tom is 8:2:H, which reads, "The batter-runner is out when (they) step back toward home plate to avoid or delay a tag by a fielder."

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

For ASA the rule referenced by Tom is 8:2:H, which reads, "The batter-runner is out when (they) step back toward home plate to avoid or delay a tag by a fielder."

That's what I needed - thanks!

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

No problem.

Is there a rule reference, or case? I happen to know the umpire personally, and he's also a good basketball official, so I didn't get into a discussion at the time, since I haven't been involved with umpiring ASA for several years. In fact, I just asked him about it in between innings well after the fact. I just want to help him out with a rule or case reference when I see him again next week.

The point is that there is no such rule so there is no such out; except in the specific conditions in 8-2-h; which is mimiced or parphrased in the other books as well.