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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 03:17pm
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I notice that the umpires, appropriately, called time at the end of play.
Quite true. The first I instinct of the catcher was to field the ball and F3 to cover the bag. PU seemed to have his attention focused on the injured player.
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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 07:02pm
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Last time someone in pro baseball got a high-profile devastating injury after being struck in the neck with a batted ball, helmets were mandated for those occupying that position.

I wonder if they'll overreact again.
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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 07:12pm
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That looks terrible.

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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 08:59pm
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An article says the C-1 fracture (the one that happens when diving into a shallow pool) probably happened when he dropped right down on top of his head. The impact of the ball caused a skull fracture, but that was the lesser injury.
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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 10:09pm
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To the people who think MLB might overreact, what could MLB do in this case? Mandate hard helmets for F1's?

Anything else dramatically changes the game forever, right?
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Old Sun Aug 07, 2011, 03:13pm
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Last time someone in pro baseball got a high-profile devastating injury after being struck in the neck with a batted ball, helmets were mandated for those occupying that position.

I wonder if they'll overreact again.
Are you referring to base coaches? I have always thought that was a good decision.

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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 07:45am
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Are you referring to base coaches? I have always thought that was a good decision.
The helmets being worn would not have prevented the injury that led to the requirement to wear helmets.
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 02:34pm
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The helmets being worn would not have prevented the injury that led to the requirement to wear helmets.
I was being a tad sarcastic, as a helmet would not have helped Lasorda either. Ha. But, I was under the impression that a single-A coach was hit in the head by a foul a few years back. Is this why they now wear them in A - MLB?
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 02:53pm
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He was hit in the neck, not the head.

The helmets that are now mandatory would have done nothing to prevent or ameliorate the base coach's injury.

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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 02:53pm
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IBut, I was under the impression that a single-A coach was hit in the head by a foul a few years back. Is this why they now wear them in A - MLB?
Yes, Mike Coolbaugh, Double A Tulsa
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 03:44pm
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I was being a tad sarcastic, as a helmet would not have helped Lasorda either. Ha. But, I was under the impression that a single-A coach was hit in the head by a foul a few years back. Is this why they now wear them in A - MLB?
Coolbaugh, 35, dies after being struck by ball - Minor Leagues - ESPN

This was the incident involving a base coach.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3100278

As already noted, he was struck in the neck - the helmet probably would not have helped.

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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 04:48pm
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Bob and JM,
"Neck" sounds like nowhere near the head, but the preliminary autopsy (which I can no longer find a copy of) said that he was struck about 1/2 inch behind and below the left ear, causing a rupture of a blood vessel near the brain. It is hard to say if a helmet would have helped or hurt, but very likely a helmet would have changed the nature of the impact.

From the AP report:
A preliminary autopsy report shows that a burst blood vessel in Mike Coolbaugh's neck, near his brain, killed the Tulsa Drillers hitting coach when he was hit by a batted ball on Sunday.

"It hit him in the back of the left side of his neck, kind of right below the ear," Pulaski County coroner Mark Malcolm said.

The ball compressed the left vertebral artery, which travels up the left side of the spinal column and provides blood to the brain. The artery compressed against the vertebra at the top of his spine, right at the base of the skull, and a hemorrhage was the result, Malcolm said.

Malcolm said the full autopsy report has not yet been completed. He would not address whether a helmet would have saved Coolbaugh or whether, in general, a helmet could provide protection from a similarly batted ball.
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Two years ago, Mark, Jr., and I were umpiring a boys' 12U game (80 ft bases) that played under OBR. Junior was the PU and I was the BU. The Batter hit a line shot back to the Pitcher that hit him on his forehead bounced into foul territory between HP and 3B on the fly. F1 hit the ground before the ball hit the ground in foul territory. We both called Time simultaneously and awarded all of the Runners one base. IMHO it really doesn't matter what age the players are, in this type play, play should be stopped immediately.

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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 07:39pm
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Two years ago, Mark, Jr., and I were umpiring a boys' 12U game (80 ft bases) that played under OBR. Junior was the PU and I was the BU. The Batter hit a line shot back to the Pitcher that hit him on his forehead bounced into foul territory between HP and 3B on the fly. F1 hit the ground before the ball hit the ground in foul territory. We both called Time simultaneously and awarded all of the Runners one base. IMHO it really doesn't matter what age the players are, in this type play, play should be stopped immediately.

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By the replay, he was struck at :09, batter reached first at :13 and a trainer was at his side at :19, ten seconds after he went down. It's hard to see how they could have gotten there quicker. If his larynx was crushed and he needed an emergency tracheostomy, it probably would have been done more quickly there than on any Little League field. I agree with your comment in principle, and most certainly at amateur levels. It is just hard to see how it would help much at the MLB level. In this case, it might have gained 3 or 4 seconds. BU the EMT personnel are at least 5 to 10 minutes closer.
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