WP on ball four, does run count?

[Larry1953]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The umpire directs the batter-runner to first, and if he refuses declares him out.

That makes sense, but what is the mechanic to direct the batter to first other than saying "Ball Four"? And what constitutes refusal? Usually pitchers go directly to first on a walk before putting a warm-up jacket on. Would leaving the dirt circle around the plate while walking to the dugout constitute refusal like on a D3K?

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Larry1953

That makes sense, but what is the mechanic to direct the batter to first other than saying "Ball Four"? And what constitutes refusal? ?

1) You tell him he needs to go touch first.

2) He doesn't.

Your act is getting really old.

I have Nemcec's book - interesting - not a valid source interpretations.

The Sporting News' book used to be considered the key source as it was writtten by Billy Evans - an MLB umpire.. Still has historical value on interpretations.