Pitcher turning the shoulders

[FTVMartin]

Had coach yelling for a balk tonight when pitcher was turning to look at first before coming set. I explained that this rule was changed several years back and is no longer a balk.

Does anybody remember what year this changed?

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by FTVMartin

Does anybody remember what year this changed?

What rule code?

[dash_riprock]

FED, and it was about 3 years ago. They changed the rule to allow F1 to turn his shoulders to check a runner until F1 brought his hands together (not when he came set, which is what the rule should have been changed to).

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by FTVMartin

Had coach yelling for a balk tonight ...

Yelling? Do you allow that?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Yelling? Do you allow that?

You can't stop it before it happens, and it appears he addressed it. Sheesh.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You can't stop it before it happens, and it appears he addressed it. Sheesh.

1+

-Josh

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You can't stop it before it happens, and it appears he addressed it. Sheesh.

You "address" yelling with explanations of the balk rule? That's not my idea of addressing yelling.

IMO too many umpires fail to address coaches who yell, and that makes my job more difficult. I'm sorry you don't regard this issue as legitimate.

[Coach Dykhoff]

Power Hungry?

[Tim C]

I don't allow "yelling" about balls/strikes or balks. I shut it down at once.

If that is considered "power hungry" by a rat, so be it.

T

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You "address" yelling with explanations of the balk rule? That's not my idea of addressing yelling.

IMO too many umpires fail to address coaches who yell, and that makes my job more difficult. I'm sorry you don't regard this issue as legitimate.

The issue is legitimate, I just don't see it as part of the OP. And, a timely, accurate, calm explanation of the rule (in five words or fewer) can stop the yelling.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

Power Hungry?

New here?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The issue is legitimate, I just don't see it as part of the OP. And, a timely, accurate, calm explanation of the rule (in five words or fewer) can stop the yelling.

+1.

Shutting down the yelling can take many forms. It doesn't necessarily require a nuclear warhead.

[FTVMartin]

This was a first base coach. Fed varsity game. Yelling may be a strong word for it. He was "exclaiming" "that's a balk" each time the pitcher turned to look at his runner.
After the second pitch that he did it, it clicked to me what he was talking about so I took a few steps toward him and said "coach, that's not a rule anymore. it changed about five years ago." HC asked me about it between innings and I gave hime the same explination.

In my mind this was a simple way to control the situation and I didn't hear another word the rest of the game.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

New here?

New ID.

This one claims to have played at USC, though a search of rosters back through the 50's doesn't show his name.

Maybe Dykhoff is more a descriptive noun than proper noun.

[MD Longhorn]

Resumes are cheap on the internet. I "played baseball" at the University of Texas... if you count showing up for open tryouts and getting struck out by both Roger Clemens and Calvin Schiraldi while they were really just warming up "playing baseball".