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Old Mon Aug 21, 2000, 04:44pm
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I cannot figure it out.

The eUmpire Forum is the fastest loading, quickest responding Bulletin Board on baseball anywhere on the Internet. Whichever Board is in second place is far, far behind.

Yet we cannot seem to generate any discussions here.

Eteamz is filled with information, but it's mostly for Little League "volunteer" umpires. Does that say that the majority of baseball officials on the Intnernet are affiliated with Little League?

The URC has more than its share of non-LL officials, but it is a trifle ponderous compared to eUmpire Forum.

McGriff's has plenty of action, though it too, is LL driven right now because of the playoffs. Still, McGriff's is a totally unmonitored Board and about 1/3 of its messages (or more) are by anonymous "members," and probably half of the posts would be pulled automatically from here.

The eReferee Forum is rockin'. The eumpire Forum is like the front seat of my father's car on my first date: Nothing's happening.

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Old Mon Aug 21, 2000, 05:36pm
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Carl: Fed's over, college is over, Legion is over (for 99.9% of us). Even the Pro's are having a quiet time. The LL guys are still upset that they didn't get asked to go to LLWS and they're busily critiquing those who did.
I like it here and will check in every day to see what's going on .... but for me, there are no topics to discuss. Sorry!

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Old Mon Aug 21, 2000, 08:34pm
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I have to agree. There isn't much baseball goin' on around my area either, except for my son and I going out and throwing to get ready for next year.
However, since you asked Carl, I do have a question for you. I posted it on eteamz before I got to this board.
While in Cooperstown (playing OBR) I had a pitcher set with his hands completely over his head, 6 to 8 inches. I called BALK was I right or should I have treated this like a teachable moment?
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Old Mon Aug 21, 2000, 09:46pm
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl Childress:
I cannot figure it out.

The eUmpire Forum is the fastest loading, quickest responding Bulletin Board on baseball anywhere on the Internet. Whichever Board is in second place is far, far behind.

Yet we cannot seem to generate any discussions here.

Eteamz is filled with information, but it's mostly for Little League "volunteer" umpires. Does that say that the majority of baseball officials on the Intnernet are affiliated with Little League?

The URC has more than its share of non-LL officials, but it is a trifle ponderous compared to eUmpire Forum.

McGriff's has plenty of action, though it too, is LL driven right now because of the playoffs. Still, McGriff's is a totally unmonitored Board and about 1/3 of its messages (or more) are by anonymous "members," and probably half of the posts would be pulled automatically from here.

The eReferee Forum is rockin'. The eumpire Forum is like the front seat of my father's car on my first date: Nothing's happening.

Help!




Carl,

Apologies from me for not being too lively, but as you know, I'm traveling constantly right now. But here's an idea: start posting an OBR play of the day and gauge responsiveness from that.

Right now there's not much to say because very few people are calling.

I'm here, I'm ready to join you. I just have very little to say myself right now....

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Old Tue Aug 22, 2000, 12:11am
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quote:
Originally posted by Thane Yennie:
While in Cooperstown (playing OBR) I had a pitcher set with his hands completely over his head, 6 to 8 inches. I called BALK was I right or should I have treated this like a teachable moment?


Ty:

When you are the umpire in a national tournament, as you were, that is not the time for "teachable" moments.

BTW: I understood Wyoming was on fire. Sad to say, your post means the firefighters saved it.

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Old Tue Aug 22, 2000, 12:22am
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl Childress:
I cannot figure it out.

The eUmpire Forum is the fastest loading, quickest responding Bulletin Board on baseball anywhere on the Internet. Whichever Board is in second place is far, far behind.

Yet we cannot seem to generate any discussions here.



OK, several people replied, citing "There's not much baseball around."

I give you that.

But the more established (and slower) Boards are "humming."

I'd like us to start humming.

Ask one friend to meet you here for a discusison you MIGHT have somewhere else.

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Old Tue Aug 22, 2000, 09:39am
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Carl,

If I may be so bold as to critique the board.

The major problem I see with the board format is the flat format for displaying the message threads. For me it makes it difficult to follow the topics. Now perhaps there is a way to change this, but if there is I haven't found it.

Also, I don't see the speed improvement you are claiming. Loading speed on the internet depends on the primary host server speed as well as the throughput speed of the hubs through which the information must pass, so it may be that my route goes through a particularly busy hub since I'm in the D.C. area, but this board seems to load slower then the eteamz board for me anyway.

The last thing is that I don't see a dramatic advantage that this board offers that the others do not. The real proof of a board is value that it provides and that value resides in the posts. Once the quanity of the posts pickup, I'm sure the activity will pick up because based on the names of the posters that I've seen so far, I'm sure that the quality will be there.

Finally, back to my original thought. If you can get the replies in a threaded format (or tell me how to do it) I think it will dramatically improve the readibility and usability of the board.
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Old Thu Aug 24, 2000, 04:51pm
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Originally posted by Jim Mills:
It isn't just the forum; it's the eUmpire package. At URC you can read the articles and participate in discussions for free. I think people come for a look, see that they can't read the articles unless they pay fifty bucks, and decide that the discussion board here isn't anything they can't get, along with other non-interactive features, elsewhere for free.

Maybe I'm not techno-geeky enough, but for me, the fact that the site loads in a half-second instead of five seconds just isn't that big a deal.

BTW: Po-tay-to, po-tah-to. I love flat mode.

This is a cool site, though. I'm betting that time will heal this wound.




For the record, Jim, the articles at EUmpire CAN'T be found elsewhere. The writers here have made a concerted effort to offer pieces here that are unlike anything at URC, or anywhere else.

For the very best in advanced umpiring techniques and instruction, there is no place like EUmpire.

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Old Fri Aug 25, 2000, 10:26am
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sorry about the length ...

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Porter:

For the record, Jim, the articles at EUmpire CAN'T be found elsewhere. The writers here have made a concerted effort to offer pieces here that are unlike anything at URC, or anywhere else.

For the very best in advanced umpiring techniques and instruction, there is no place like EUmpire.

Sincerely,
Jim Porter




For the record, Jim, I just went through the registration process solely for the opportunity to reply to your note.

I looked at the front page for eUmpire (after your recommendaton on llumpires) and I agree with you that the articles look good. However, I have a day job, and a family, so I have to be selective about which sites I frequent - even the free ones are abandoned when the time required exceeds the value obtained.

I was thrilled when I discovered the URC - the articles were great, and for a relative newcomer, invaluable. BUT ...those same articles are now stale, and I don't see many new ones.

How are potential buyers to know whether the same problem will plague eUmpire? After all, the site doesn't have the track record of Referee magazine, and Web sites have a nasty habit of folding.

As for this discussion board ... what can I get here that I won't get on eTeamz, the URC, and the LUmpires email list?

The POTD is a great idea ... but Carl quit doing it on eTeamz. Will it last longer here?

One bennie that I see for this site is the explicit requirement that the discussions remain civil. Once the user base grows, that requirement alone will be enough to get me back.

My $0.02 worth.

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Old Fri Aug 25, 2000, 11:50am
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quote:
Originally posted by James Leatherwood:
sorry about the length ...

For the record, Jim, I just went through the registration process solely for the opportunity to reply to your note.

I was thrilled when I discovered the URC - the articles were great, and for a relative newcomer, invaluable. BUT ...those same articles are now stale, and I don't see many new ones.

How are potential buyers to know whether the same problem will plague eUmpire? After all, the site doesn't have the track record of Referee magazine, and Web sites have a nasty habit of folding.

As for this discussion board ... what can I get here that I won't get on eTeamz, the URC, and the LUmpires email list?

The POTD is a great idea ... but Carl quit doing it on eTeamz. Will it last longer here?

One bennie that I see for this site is the explicit requirement that the discussions remain civil. Once the user base grows, that requirement alone will be enough to get me back.

My $0.02 worth.

James Leatherwood



Mr. Leatherwood:

First, six articles a week are posted on the eUmpire site. That's more baseball in one week than you get in any national magazine in a month.

Second, you get interviews every month and news on a weekly basis. The lead time in the typical magazine is two months. Here at eUmpire, it can be two hours.

Third, I did not stop the POTD at eteamz, as you would know if you visited the FED/NCAA Board, where I have been posting plays for the last month. There's a new one up right now at this URL:
http://www.eteamz.com/baseball/board...ex.cfm?bpage=1

Fourth, if you join eUmpire today or tomorrow, I'll make you this offer: If it folds before the you've finished your year, I'll send you double your membership fee -- out of my own pocket.

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Old Fri Aug 25, 2000, 02:24pm
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quote:
Originally posted by James Leatherwood:
sorry about the length ...

For the record, Jim, I just went through the registration process solely for the opportunity to reply to your note.

I looked at the front page for eUmpire (after your recommendaton on llumpires) and I agree with you that the articles look good. However, I have a day job, and a family, so I have to be selective about which sites I frequent - even the free ones are abandoned when the time required exceeds the value obtained.

I was thrilled when I discovered the URC - the articles were great, and for a relative newcomer, invaluable. BUT ...those same articles are now stale, and I don't see many new ones.

How are potential buyers to know whether the same problem will plague eUmpire? After all, the site doesn't have the track record of Referee magazine, and Web sites have a nasty habit of folding.

As for this discussion board ... what can I get here that I won't get on eTeamz, the URC, and the LUmpires email list?

The POTD is a great idea ... but Carl quit doing it on eTeamz. Will it last longer here?

One bennie that I see for this site is the explicit requirement that the discussions remain civil. Once the user base grows, that requirement alone will be enough to get me back.

My $0.02 worth.

James Leatherwood




Just to add to Carl's comments, what ensures that the articles will not become "stale" is that eUmpires has a staff of writers churning out new material all the time. That's why it will be six articles per week.

You get plenty of bang for your buck with eUmpires.

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Jim Porter

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Old Fri Sep 01, 2000, 01:22pm
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Mr. Leatherwood:

First, six articles a week are posted on the eUmpire site. That's more baseball in one week than you get in any national magazine in a month.



True enough, and it certainly appears that the Authoritative Opinion leaders of the 'net are here. More articles here than anywhere else ...

quote:

Second, you get interviews every month and news on a weekly basis. The lead time in the typical magazine is two months. Here at eUmpire, it can be two hours.



OK ... again, the "mission statement" of more info, faster is good.

quote:

Third, I did not stop the POTD at eteamz, as you would know if you visited the FED/NCAA Board, where I have been posting plays for the last month. There's a new one up right now at this URL:




My mistake. I should have been more precise, and said that you stopped the POTD at the eTeamz OBR board ... apparently (to me) in a fit of pique because few people emailed you in response to your question about whether the POTD was worth reading. My apologies for the inaccuracy.

I don't frequent the FED/NCAA board because I haven't been calling any games under those rules. I will be working fall ball under Fed rules, though, so I suppose I should start reading those interpretations.

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Fourth, if you join eUmpire today or tomorrow, I'll make you this offer: If it folds before the you've finished your year, I'll send you double your membership fee -- out of my own pocket.




This is the second time in as many weeks that you've volunteered to put your money where your mouth is. I ordered (and received) the BRD recently, and while it's not as lavishly illustrated as the Referee Guidebooks, it appears to be worth my money, so I won't have to ask for your money on that count.

Now I know what my first fall ball payment is going to be used for - Umpire Improvement via eUmpire.

I just need to find the time to read all this info ...

Thanks for the feedback. And thanks to Jim Porter, too, for the sales pitch he made on the llumpires mailing list.

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Old Fri Sep 01, 2000, 02:30pm
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Papa C - the Board is starting to Hum a bit.

Also, as more "come in and take a look see" I think this Board will Hop.

People will realize that this Board is "user friendly" and they can get plenty of solid information.

Even if you don't have a PC at home such as myself and visit during work, one will find this Board useful whether you umpire using strict OBR / FED or NCAA.

Th answers along with article information are here.

Is everyone "READY RO RUMBLE"

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