Timing play or not?

[etn_ump]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

I think the question was asked because your OP did not state rules citations and it was asked similar to that of a rookie.

It is a time play and the run scores - simple as that. With your posted credentials, I would think that this would be an easy 1-2-3 decision for you. But if you want rule references, I would suggest with your posted credentials, you should dig out your rulebooks and look for yourself. Seeing as how this was FED, you also might want to refer to the FED casebook. I'm sure with your posted credentials, you have one of those buried in your equipment bag. Why not post the rules you find and the casebook references for those of us who have no posted credentials so we can become smart, too!

I shouldn't have asked.

I was in Atlanta working a week long tournament, out of town, without my rule books, went on my laptop to ask a question and I catch all this crap.

All I wanted was rule cites not a whole bunch of garbage.

You wonder why more people don't use this site, this is why.

Do the letters, F.O., mean anything to yall?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by etn_ump

Do the letters, F.O., mean anything to yall?

Field Officer?

I will point out that your OP asks, "Does the run count?"

It doesn't state, "I know this run counts, but I'm pout of town without my books and need to prove it. Can someone please provide the OBR reference?"

[DG]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Field Officer?

I will point out that your OP asks, "Does the run count?"

It doesn't state, "I know this run counts, but I'm out of town without my books and need to prove it. Can someone please provide the OBR reference?"

Touche'. But he had a laptop, and apparently access to internet to ask the question. So he had access to an OBR rule book at MLB.com

My trunk trunk has rule books in it, something he should consider.

[UmpJM]

Gentlemen,

Rather than "piling on", I'll just offer a different perspective.

When I saw etn_ump's post, I didn't notice his "credentials". So, I just tried to answer his question.

Personally, I thought it an exceptionally good answer. But hey, that's just me.

Now that his credentials have been called to my attention, I too am a little surprised that he asked the question.

But...

Some of the best umpires I know and have worked with are not especially "articulate" about the rules. They KNOW the rules, and how to properly apply them - they just aren't especially good at explaining why and giving supporting rule cites and such.

I myself am very good at those latter things, but some of these guys who aren't are better umpires than I in my own estimation. They just are.

Yes, I'm sure.

The body of etn_ump's posts here lead me to believe that he's a credible umpire in the leagues he works.

JMO.

JM

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Some of the best umpires I know and have worked with are not especially "articulate" about the rules. They KNOW the rules, and how to properly apply them - they just aren't especially good at explaining why and giving supporting rule cites and such.
JM

Same here.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by DG

Touche'. But he had a laptop, and apparently access to internet to ask the question. So he had access to an OBR rule book at MLB.com

This. At the least, keep a PDF copy on your computer.

[MrUmpire]

[QUOTE=etn_ump;685044]

All I wanted was rule cites not a whole bunch of garbage.

Then you should have indicated you were up to your resume and knew the rule and just wanted a citation, instead of asking a dumbass rookie question.

You wonder why more people don't use this site, this is why.

What is why? People pretending to be experienced veterans asking dumbass questions?

Do the letters, F.O., mean anything to yall?

Forward Observer?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by etn_ump

I shouldn't have asked.

I was in Atlanta working a week long tournament, out of town, without my rule books, went on my laptop to ask a question and I catch all this crap.

All I wanted was rule cites not a whole bunch of garbage.

You wonder why more people don't use this site, this is why.

Do the letters, F.O., mean anything to yall?

Methinks you might be just a l'il too thin-skinned for sports officiating.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by etn_ump

I shouldn't have asked.

I was in Atlanta working a week long tournament, out of town, without my rule books, went on my laptop to ask a question and I catch all this crap.

All I wanted was rule cites not a whole bunch of garbage.

You wonder why more people don't use this site, this is why.

Do the letters, F.O., mean anything to yall?

Why would any umpire work a week-long tournament without access to a rule book, much less without bringing it along? Didn't any of the other umpires at the tournament have a rule book? How about the tournament director(s)? How would you resolve a protest at the tournament if nobody had a rule book? Just curious....

JJ
F.O. (Fine Official)

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by etn_ump

I shouldn't have asked.

You purport yourself to be a college umpire. It's not so much that you should have asked... it's that either A) you shouldn't have had to ask... or B) you are severely misrepresenting your credentials.

Originally Posted by etn_ump

I was in Atlanta working a week long tournament, out of town, without my rule books, went on my laptop to ask a question and I catch all this crap. All I wanted was rule cites not a whole bunch of garbage.

Seriously? This is a basic principal. You should have this down pretty clearly after your very first season of 10U ball. Seriously. You wonder why you're catching crap? This is a DUMB question that implies that you're either a REALLY bad coach, or you're out on the field umpiring with absolutely no training or even a single read through the rulebook.

Originally Posted by etn_ump

You wonder why more people don't use this site, this is why.

Hmm. I don't recall wondering anything of the sort. Seems that except for 3 trolls and the occasional parent/coach who wants to come on here just to bag on umpires, we have a good group here - and everyone here comes to get better - not to display the fact that even though they umpire college games they've never read the book.

Originally Posted by etn_ump

Do the letters, F.O., mean anything to yall?

Oo. Ouch. You really got us there. We're wounded.