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[UmpJM]

steveshane67,

If you're too lazy to look it up yourself there's no reason to accuse bob of being a "wise a$$" or suggesting he is "firmly affixed to (his) high horse" - because he's not.

You might want to read Rule 7.12 .

JM

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

steveshane67,

If you're too lazy to look it up yourself there's no reason to accuse bob of being a "wise a$$" or suggesting he is "firmly affixed to (his) high horse" - because he's not.

You might want to read Rule 7.12 .

JM

did it ever occur to you that someone might have tried to search for it but didnt see it and didnt feel like thoroughly reading through 13 pages of rules (sec 7 is 13 pages) when they could spend 5 seconds posting a question on a rules forum.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

did it ever occur to you that someone might have tried to search for it but didnt see it and didnt feel like thoroughly reading through 13 pages of rules (sec 7 is 13 pages) when they could spend 5 seconds posting a question on a rules forum.

steveshane,

Yes, it did.

You're welcome.

JM

[johnnyg08]

Or you could go to MLB.com which has fully searchable pdf's for your reading pleasure.

[johnnyg08]

another way to ask your question is to post a few rules that you already looked up and couldn't figure them out. you'll get a lot more credit on here for at least attempting to do some leg work on your own first.

yes, it is faster sometimes to just ask on here...but many on here will teach you to fish as well. I've always learned more when I read about the rule and the ridiculous amount of manuals I've purchase over the last few years.

lighten up on Bob...it's good to make friends on here

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

another way to ask your question is to post a few rules that you already looked up and couldn't figure them out. you'll get a lot more credit on here for at least attempting to do some leg work on your own first.

yes, it is faster sometimes to just ask on here...but many on here will teach you to fish as well. I've always learned more when I read about the rule and the ridiculous amount of manuals I've purchase over the last few years.

lighten up on Bob...it's good to make friends on here

maybe im missing something.

my post was a simple yes or no question that should be a very easy question for any baseball ump to answer with a simple yes or no.

as you can see by my first followup post, i have nothing to do with the question, i was simply trying to help someone else out, bc i knew of this forum, and i knew it was a simple yes or no question.

i dont play baseball, i dont umpire baseball, heck, i hardly even watch baseball, so, i dont care about pouring over the rulebook, or purchasing manuals.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

maybe im missing something.

my post was a simple yes or no question that should be a very easy question for any baseball ump to answer with a simple yes or no.

as you can see by my first followup post, i have nothing to do with the question, i was simply trying to help someone else out, bc i knew of this forum, and i knew it was a simple yes or no question.

i dont play baseball, i dont umpire baseball, heck, i hardly even watch baseball, so, i dont care about pouring over the rulebook, or purchasing manuals.

I really don't care either way what you think or what you choose to purchase or not purchase. If you want help on this board, I'm simply giving you advice just like some of the other veterans on here. Take it or leave it, makes no difference to me

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

I really don't care either way what you think or what you choose to purchase or not purchase. If you want help on this board, I'm simply giving you advice just like some of the other veterans on here. Take it or leave it, makes no difference to me

that seems to be the crux of our situation, i dont want help, i wanted a simple yes or no answer.

i tried to preface that when i said "quick question". lesson learned, next time i post on an "experts" forum looking for a simple answer, ill explicitely say that and that i want a yes or no response.

[umpjong]

I thought there was no crying in Baseball?

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

...

i dont play baseball, i dont umpire baseball, heck, i hardly even watch baseball, so, i dont care about pouring over the rulebook, or purchasing manuals.

steve,

Have you considered coaching? Sounds like you're eminently qualified.

JM

[DG]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

i dont play baseball, i dont umpire baseball, heck, i hardly even watch baseball, so, i dont care about pouring over the rulebook, or purchasing manuals.

So why the hell are you on this site asking simple questions that can be easily researched by someone who does care and complaining about answers received? Wrong place to play with your attitude.

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Or you could go to MLB.com which has fully searchable pdf's for your reading pleasure.

thats where i originally tried to search. the problem was i searched for "missed", as in missed base, when the MLB rule talks about failure to touch. the only pertinent runner rule with "missed" doesnt address the appeal being the 3rd out and following runners runs not counting.

but thanks again.

i just wonder why this post

Does not touch first base

received nothing but legit helpful responses, but mine didnt?

i even know the answer to the question.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

i just wonder why this post

Does not touch first base

received nothing but legit helpful responses, but mine didnt?

i even know the answer to the question.

Sometimes it depends on who answers first.

I will point out that a follow-up question in that thread elicited the following response: "I and most on this forum could easily tell you but I listed the rule from the book in post #2. See if you can figure it out. Learn on your own and it will be much clearer for you. "

That's similar to the advice you received.

i dont play baseball, i dont umpire baseball, heck, i hardly even watch baseball, so, i dont care about pouring over the rulebook, or purchasing manuals.

Ah -- most to whom that description applies include that information in the OP. Had that been the case, I would have realized you were not interested in fishing, and just given you the information to take back.

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Sometimes it depends on who answers first.

I will point out that a follow-up question in that thread elicited the following response: "I and most on this forum could easily tell you but I listed the rule from the book in post #2. See if you can figure it out. Learn on your own and it will be much clearer for you. "

That's similar to the advice you received.


(If I was being sarcastic, I'd wonder why you didn't read that thread first and then read the rule referenced therein. But, I'm not, so I won't.)

maybe that was the 100% best thread reference i could have used, BUT, i looked at the first page of the forum, saw what seemed to be a relatively easy question, read the first few responses and noted how they all were legitimate, and stopped reading the thread bc i wasnt looking for words of wisdom, just a thread were ppl were given real answers to a simple question.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

did it ever occur to you that someone might have tried to search for it but didnt see it and didnt feel like thoroughly reading through 13 pages of rules (sec 7 is 13 pages) when they could spend 5 seconds posting a question on a rules forum.

Steve --

1) My original response was offered in the spirit of the "give a man a fish...teach a man to fish" saying.

2) You'd be surprised what else you can learn by looking through the "13 pages" of rules.