appeal play

[steveshane67]

quick question,

2 outs, runner on 1st misses 3rd base on a HR. defense appeals, does the batters run count?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

quick question,

2 outs, runner on 1st misses 3rd base on a HR. defense appeals, does the batters run count?

Isn't R1 a preceeding runner to BR? Can any run score when a preceeding runner has made the third out?

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Isn't R1 a preceeding runner to BR? Can any run score when a preceeding runner has made the third out?

is the sarcastic wise *ss reply necessary???

a simple, "no, the run doesnt count" would suffice just fine.

not that its gonna matter to you one bit bc you are firmly affixed to your high horse, but i was reading a thread on another forum and saw this question. i knew of this forum so i figured id ask here to help the other person out.

that being said, if you truly dont know and were asking a legitimate question, i apologize. but, if that is the case, there is no need to re ask the same question i asked in the first place.

[celebur]

He wasn't being sarcastic--he was trying to point you to the rules basis so that you could figure it out for yourself, which will likely stick with you better than if he had just answered, "No."

Edit: By the way, you didn't mention a rule set, so assuming OBR, this would be rule 4.09a, which I'll quote below:

4.09 HOW A TEAM SCORES

(a) One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first, second, third and home base before three men are put out to end the inning.
EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

Your play exactly matches exception #3.

[UmpJM]

steveshane67,

If you're too lazy to look it up yourself there's no reason to accuse bob of being a "wise a$$" or suggesting he is "firmly affixed to (his) high horse" - because he's not.

You might want to read Rule 7.12 .

JM

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

steveshane67,

If you're too lazy to look it up yourself there's no reason to accuse bob of being a "wise a$$" or suggesting he is "firmly affixed to (his) high horse" - because he's not.

You might want to read Rule 7.12 .

JM

did it ever occur to you that someone might have tried to search for it but didnt see it and didnt feel like thoroughly reading through 13 pages of rules (sec 7 is 13 pages) when they could spend 5 seconds posting a question on a rules forum.

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by celebur

He wasn't being sarcastic--he was trying to point you to the rules basis so that you could figure it out for yourself, which will likely stick with you better than if he had just answered, "No."

its not like i was asking if the runners on base, who kept running after the 3rd out was recorded, and crossed home would count.

if i asked "if the batter missed third base on a HR, would the other runners on base runs count" would that receive a cryptic sarcastic reply as well?

[jicecone]

Whoa there Mr. Questions. Most of the participants on this forum spend a lot of time studying and reading many books and manuals, including the rule books, to learn this stuff.

The one you choose to disrespect (Bob) happens to be one of the more knowledgeable members.

Bob is more of a gentlemen than I so, next time you need a rule question answered, get off your lazy butt and look up the rule yourself. Then you can really impress your friends, and don't only have to ACT, as though you know something about the rules.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

is the sarcastic wise *ss reply necessary???

a simple, "no, the run doesnt count" would suffice just fine.

not that its gonna matter to you one bit bc you are firmly affixed to your high horse, but i was reading a thread on another forum and saw this question. i knew of this forum so i figured id ask here to help the other person out.

that being said, if you truly dont know and were asking a legitimate question, i apologize. but, if that is the case, there is no need to re ask the same question i asked in the first place.

Wow.

His answer wasn't wise@$$ or sarcastic. Generally, we assume posters here to be umpires. if you aren't one, it helps to say so... If someone comes here and asks a question as simple as this one, there's nothing wrong with the answerer walking the asker through the logic behind how the answer should have been derived. Telling an umpire the answer without telling him why or leading him the way is like giving someone a fish instead of teaching him how to fish.

If there's a high horse here, sir ... it is you that is on it.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

quick question,

2 outs, runner on 1st misses 3rd base on a HR. defense appeals, does the batters run count?

No.

[PeteBooth]

You will find the answers under rule 11.

1. What day of the week is it? There are different rules dpending upon which day you are talking about.

2. Does this run mean game over and we get to go home

3. Does the kid who hit the HR have a GLM

4. What mood I am in. If I had a fight with the wife I might want to stay longer so I most likely will NOT count the run. vs. a situation where the temps are in the 90's and the guys are going out for some cold ones after the game then the run counts.

It a nutshell the answer to your question is

IT DEPENDS

Pete Booth

[NFump]

Most excellent! LOL